LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.06.19 (05) [E/LS]

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From: Holger Weigelt <platt at HOLGER-WEIGELT.DE>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.06.17 (08) [LS]

>From: "Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann" <Friedrich-Wilhelm.Neumann at epost.de>
>Subject: LL-L 2002-06-15 (04)
...
>>Wat seggt de (olen) Lí²²í´§ bi Ju denn fíº í°¤í²³í´³ch _hä³³lich_ (ingelsch
>>_ugly_)?
>
>Heel stuur, Ron. Kein eein kann't opstí±ºí¾³ verkloorn'!
>
>Mi dí±Ží¸´, dat is víº í° Tieden all' verloorn gungen.

Moin Fiete !

In Eastern Friesland we know the word "gri:selgh" but this
means "horrible", "awful" or "frightening". ("gri:seln" = to shudder)
For "ugly" we mostly use "ma:l" (a French loan ?).
"Dat let läip ma:l" = that looks very ugly
"Dat is 'n mâl sghilt" = thats an ugly image
"Ma:l" also denotes "bad", "mad", "crazy"

Kumpelment
Holger

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From: Holger Weigelt <platt at HOLGER-WEIGELT.DE>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.06.19 (04) [E]

>From: Lone Elisabeth Olesen <baxichedda at yahoo.com>
>Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2002.06.10 (11) [E]
>
>Hello all,
>I am somewhat slow in answer - a lot of work these
>days...
...
>From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
>Subject: Lexicon
>
>Thanks for sharing your equestrian expertise (above), Lone.
>
>> It is quite a "revelation" to me to find that most
>> "Danish" horse words seem to be Low Saxon, I guess
>> people mostly refer to a German origin because they
>> don't know the difference,
...
>> and some words seem to have
>> come from German - eg. the astmatic horse who is
>> "engbrystig" - "Engbrí²í´©g"
>The Low Saxon equivalent of that (hwee! another horse term!) is
>_ambíºí´©g_ ['?a.mb9stIC] ~ _ambostig_ ['?a.mbOstIC].  'Breast' is _Bost_
>[bOs(t)], and 'narrow' is _eng_ [?E.N(k)] (or _drang_ [dra.N(k)] in the
>sense of 'tight(-fitting)').  I assume *_engbíºí´©g_ ~ *_engbostig_
>underwent assimilation of the /N/ to the following /b/ = /mb/.  However,
>I believe this word can also be used for humans, in the past (or still
>now?) perhaps even for 'asthmatic'.

Hello Ron !
Perhaps You are right but if I hear the term "ambostig" I'd rather think
it
to be derived from *aam-bostig* (breath-breasty / breast breathing).
Regards
Holger

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Lexicon

Fiete, Holger,

In other dialects of Low Saxon (Low German), (French _mal_ 'bad', 'ill'
>) _mal_ ~ _mall_ [ma.l] does not mean 'ugly', only 'crazy', 'weird', 'silly', 'stupid', 'out of control'.  Derivations are (/mal-/) _mallen_ [ma.ln] 'to behave in a silly way', 'to clown around', _mallerig_ 'silly', _Mallaap_ ['ma.l(?)Q:p] ("silly monkey/ape" ~ _Maiaap_ "May monkey/ape") 'silly person', 'clown', _Mallmöhl_ ['ma.lm9:l] ("crazy mill") 'merry-go-round'.

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

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