LL-L "Etymology" 2002.10.25 (04) [E]

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From: kcaldwell31 at comcast.net <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2002.10.23 (06) [E/(Russian)]

Sorry about that, Ron.  Here's the same message, minus all the Cyrillic.
I don't know why it didn't come through, and I really don't know how to
change the encoding.  I was able to read the Cyrillic and diacritics in
your original message.

Kevin Caldwell

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I don't know the origin of "knopka", but have always assumed it is a
loanword.  Any of the possible origins you proposed would make sense
(Dutch from the days of Peter the Great, LS from the days of the
Hanseatic League, Yiddish from the large Jewish population).  "Knopka"
only applies to a button you push, or to a knob of any kind.  A button
on clothing is "pugovitsa".  Also, the Russian word for Yiddish is
"idish".

Kevin Caldwell (kcaldwell31 at comcast.net)

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language varieties
>
> Dear Lowlanders,
>
> Does any of you know if the Russian word _knopka_ 'button' is a
> loanword, and, if so, if its origin is Lowlands Saxon (Low German) or
> Dutch, or could it be Yiddish?  The word appears to be a diminutive
> derivation (_-ka_). LS
> and Dutch have _knoop_ for 'button'.  Yiddish has _knop_ for 'button',
> often
> _knepele_ in the diminutive.

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