LL-L "Phonology" 2002.10.25 (05) [E]

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From: Browne, Kevin at Astronaut <BrowneK at brevard.k12.fl.us>
Subject: language varieties

Hoi allemaal,

Good one Gary! I really enjoy hearing the Germans say
village and volleyball too. I like to give them sentences
like this to say:

There are very violent videos available in the village.
The three thrifty Thespians thought that they were thinking.

I enjoy hearing them try to say the "th" and the "v".

Kevin Browne

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From: Daniel Prohaska <daniel at ryan-prohaska.com>
Subject: Language Varieties

Gary wrote:

"To revenge myself for comments about English speakers'
pronunciations of 'Rostock' and 'Bundestag', my
personal favourites from German pronunciations of
English have to be 'willitch' (village) and especially
'wally ball' (volley ball). These make me chuckle
every time I hear them!"

Dear Gary,

Yeah right! Makes me cringe every time, too. Another one is /O:lbÖrt/,
and /O:lfrIt/ for Albert and Alfred. Or /melbö:rn/ for Melbourne. Many
realise the final vowel of Sidney and Harvey as a diphthong /ei/:
/sidnei/, /ha:(r)vei/ => I hate it - and living in a German speaking
country I`m often exposed to it.

Wery vell, until next time,
Dan

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

So it's "Bash-the-Boche Day," is it?  ;)

Kevin:
> I enjoy hearing them try to say the "th" and the "v".

I see ... So you like to watch them suffer, huh?  Ain't that just lovely?!

Daniel:
> /sidnei/, /ha:(r)vei/ => I hate it - and living in a German speaking
> country I`m often exposed to it.

You should be grateful for not being Harvey from Sydney.  (But then again,
['sIdneI] can be correct for "Sydney" ...)

(By the way, many Australians pronounce "Sydney" as "Sinny" ...)

But seriously, folks ...  (Yes, we always find something "scientific" in
everything, don't we?)  The phonological processing of foreign words and
languages are an interesting topic, especially where languages are as
closely related as "ours" are.  So far we have been brushing on mistaken
morpheme boundaries (e.g., _Bundeschtag_), coping with non-native phonemes
(e.g., _th_, _w_ [w]) or non-native phonemic distinctions (e.g., /v/ vs
/w/), and with orthographic misinterpretations (e.g., Sidney, Harvey -- and
that's not a hard mistake to make given the mess that is called "English
orthography").

I'm sure there are more where they come from.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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