LL-L "History" 2002.09.29 (01) [E]

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From: Mari Sarv <Mari at haldjas.folklore.ee>
Subject: LL-L "History" 2002.09.27 (10) [E]

> From: Mike-club <botas at club-internet.fr>
> Subject:
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> Dear Lowlanders,
> Does anybody know the way to an answer to the
> following question:
> Do scholars of prehistory have any idea about the
> language(s) and racial features of the inhabitants of North-,
> Central and Western Europe before Indo-European tribes
> (Celtic and Germanic) appeared on the scene?
> Archeologists have unearthed numerous traces of these
> people, but anything on their linguistic affiliations and
> what they might have looked like, where they came from
> etc.?
> I remember vaguely reading somewhere long ago that it is
> believed that the salient differences between the
> Scandinavian (North Germanic) and the other Germanic
> languages are due to a Scandinavia-specific pre-I.-E. substrate,
> but no details whatsoever.

I happen to have in my hands an article (The Baltic Sea Prosodic Area
Revisited) of Finnish linguist Kalevi Wiik. He presupposes that indoeuropean
language came with agriculture and that there has been an Uralic, later
Finno-Ugric substratum in Northern Europe, due to which Germanic languages
acquired e.g. word-initial stress. He gives his point of view about what
happened with different prosodic features of Germanic and Finno-Ugric
(proto)languages in contact.

Mari Sarv

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: History

Tere, Mari!

Nice to hear from you again!  Thanks for the information!

Personally I find the Uralic substrate theory very interesting and would
appreciate more such information should you or anyone else come across it.

I have thought about this possibility often, namely about Uralic (early
Saame or pre-Saame) populations merging with Indo-European ones in what are
now Norway and Sweden, which are among the areas from which the Germanic
languages emanated southward.  I read somewhere (quite some time ago) that
there are some anthropological and biological indications that point in that
direction also.  Does anyone know anything about that?

Thanks, and regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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