LL-L "Etymology" 2003.08.26 (02) [F/LS]

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From: Stella en Henno <stellahenno at hetnet.nl>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.08.25 (06) [LS/F]

> vondoog kunn ick ’n lüttje Tucht Eeboors (UG: Störche), (E: white storks),
> (D: Ooievaar) seih’n, opp jemme Tohaupkunft vöör jemme Flooug no de Süüd.
>
> Door full mii opp: ick wüüs’ jemme Ingelten Noom’n ne mool.
>
> Opp Hauchdüütsch (UG) heeit se “Weissstorch”, mann ook „Meister Adebar“.
>
> Von „Adebar“, sau heff ick mii dacht, koomt woll ook „Eeboor“ aff.
Fränkisch
> or something else.
>
> Mann- in Hollandsch heeit sei „Ooievaar“ (hööert sick’n lüüt beeten an as
> *Adebar*), un door hett datt Fränkische jo woll ne sau veel tau sööken.

Neffens de standert etymologyske wurdboeken foar it Hollânsk kinne mnl.
odevare (> ooievaar) , [ek Middelnederdútsk odevare, Aldheechdútsk odobëro
(esfh)]
net skaat wurde fan Middelnederdútsk [a:debar], [e:debar], [e:debe:re],
allegear mei deselde
betsjutting fan _earrebarre_ (ja, ek út [a:deber-] of soks, mei r < d, er>
ar en soks).
Moderne dialektfoarmen út it Nederlânske Nederdútsk: euver, uiver, aibert
esfh.
(hjirfan aibert < [e:debe:r], de oaren út "odebar"..).
Miskjin ûntstien út *o:d (lok, goed besit, rykdom) + *bher (bringe), dus
bringer fan lok en fertún.. De a: en e: foarmen soene dan sekundêr wêze, en
de v- foarmen ûntstien út b- foarmen.

> Is „Meister Adebar“ an ’n Innen sassisch?
>
De foarmen mei a:debar, odebar esfh komme allinnich in Saksyske en
oanswettende gebieten foar. Franck-Van Wijk seit dan ek "overigens is de
naam vooral ndd"
= Nederdútsk. Dus it liket der âl wat op, al komt de foarm dus derbûten ek
foar...

Henno Brandsma

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