LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.29 (06) [E]

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From: Szelog, Mike <Mike.Szelog at CITIZENSBANK.com>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.29 (05) [E]

Hello all,

I remember in grammar school in "phonics" being taught the "proper"
pronunciation of the /hw/ sound. Our teacher really drilled it into us. We
were told this was the correct pronunciation, but here in New Hampshire,
nobody says it that way! It's more a sound, as others have mentioned,
associated with the Southern US. So, though it's still taught, the only
people who seem to use it are ones where it's a "normal" sound in their
accent/dialect.

Mike S
Manchester, NH - USA

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From: mike keach <mike at keach.net>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.29 (05) [E]

Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2003.08.29 (02) [E]

Uilleam asked: "I've been wondering about the sound /hw/ in English
and its prevelance among
English and Scots speakers. I'm interested to know how widespread it
is in the US..."

I must have missed the post that described what "/hw/" is/means/sounds like.
Would someone post where/how this would be used or what it is an abreviation
for, etc.?

I'm beginning to cause myself serious damage trying to mouth/pronounce hw
and people around the office are starting to stare. Help!

Best regards and TIA*,
-Mike in Tampa

*"Thanks In Advance"

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Obviously, this *is* a popular topic, no matter how many times we revisit
it.

Mike, let's put you and your coworkers out of your/their misery!  At least
I'll take the first stab at it.

I hear this said pronunciation in English as a [w] with simultaneous
aspiration, i.e. [h].  I think some speakers pronounce it [hw], i.e. [h]
preceding [w].  In international phonetic script (IPA) it is written [hw] or
[ƕ] (an h + italic v ligature), I think.

In Scots (and Maori), <wh> stands for a voiceless sound ([ʍ], an upside-down
<w>), and the SAMPA equivalent is [W].  Novice listeners tend to hear this
sound as [f].

Here are some relevant resources:
http://www.linguistlist.org/~ask-ling/archive-most-recent/msg02070.html
http://www.linguistlist.org/~ask-ling/archive-1998.4/msg00170.html
http://www.hamline.edu/~aschramm/H2majchg.html

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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