LL-L "Delectables" 2003.12.04 (08) [E]

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From: ansgar <ansgar at ece.cmu.edu>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2003.12.04 (04) [E]

Lowlands-L wrote:

> Your Plautdietsch word _Faspa_ has the German cognate _Vesper_ and the
> English cognate "vespers."  In Northern Germany, (Latin _vesper_ >)
_Vesper_
> is only used in religious contexts (meaning "evening church service"), as
is
> English "vespers" (~ "evensong").  In South German dialects, _Vesper_ may
> also be used denote any evening meal.

When I grew up in Teglingen in the Emsland, Vesper was the meal in
between lunch and dinner at about 4pm (just before you started feeding
the cattle). Typically. the it was a meal with sandwiches and thee. And
the activity of eating the Vesper, was called 'vespern'. Especially in
LS dialect.

Cheers
Ansgar [Fehnker]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Delectables

Thanks for reminding me, Ansgar.  (It was I whom you quoted above, by the
way.)

Indeed, I have heard South Germans use _Vesper_ in the sense of '(meal)
break' also.  I've never used it myself in that sense, but I just checked a
couple of Lowlands Saxon (Low German) dictionaries, and one of the German
glosses they give is _Imbiss_ 'snack'.

This reminds me that it's about time for me to do some serious vespering
myself.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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