LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.22 (10) [E]

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From: Holger Weigelt <platt at holger-weigelt.de>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.22 (07) [E/S]

> From: Colin Wilson <lcwilson at btinternet.com>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2003.01.22 (04) [E]
>
> >Andy Eagle wrote:
> >
> >>Whaur dis this  _hedge_ vs. _heck_  come fae?
>
> Marcel Bas replied:
>
.....
> There is a Scots word _heck_, and it has several meanings, but
> "hedge" isn't one of them.
>
> Guidwull tae awbodie,
>
> Colin Wilson.
>
> ----------
>
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Etymology
>
> Now, Scots _hedge_ and _heck_ do not have the same meaning, do they?
Going
> by Wir Andy's Dictionar (http://www.scots-online.org/dictionary/), _hedge_
> means 'hedge' (a division made from live plant material) while _heck_
means
> 'rack', 'slatted wooden or iron framework'.
>
> Lowlands Saxon (Low German) has the following nouns, both _Heck_:
>
> (1) Heck (feminine or neuter, plural _Hecken_) 'hedge' (>?) 'fence made
from
> sundry dead wood' (>?) 'fence made from wooden slats' (>?) 'fence made
from
> metal' (>?) 'iron framework' (cf. German _Hecke_ [feminine] 'hedge')
>
> (2) Heck (neuter, plural _Hecks_) 'board at the back of a boat or ship' >
> 'rear (of a boat)', 'stern', 'poop' (> German _Heck_ [neuter] 'id.')
....
>Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

Hello all !
In Eastern Friesland LS we know both hedge and heck. The first is _hêğ_(sg.)
/ _hēgen_ (pl.) (= hedge, "a division made from live plant material") here
and the second is _hek_ (sg.) / _hekken_ (pl.) (= fence, railing, "fence
made from wooden slats").
The additional meaning _hek_ = back part of a ship is also known.
In German the word _Hecke_ /_Hecken_ (= hedge) is known but there is no
counterpart for LS _hek_. The meaning "back part of a boat" is loaned from
LS there. Also there is _aushecken_ = to hatch, to concoct. (Does this mean
a secret counsel behind a hedge ?)

Regards
Holger

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