LL-L "Names" 2003.10.04 (01) [D/E]

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From: niels winther <nwi at dfds.dk>
Subject: LL-L: "Names"

Ron wrote:
 it is apparently only in some Holstein dialects of
 Lowlands Saxon (Low German) that _Koog_ is still
 used as a noun (apart from occurring in names).

and Henno quoted from de Vries:
 Het is een woord dat alleen tot de nl. en nd.
 Noordzeekust beperkt is ...
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This noun has been known and used in the dialects
of W. and S. Jutish along The Wadden Sea from where
the dikes start (Darum south of Esbjerg).

It has also got a renaissance in std. Danish, now
being used outside professional circles, because of
the ongoing political discussions about the Ramsar
Convention and the conditions in Tøndermarsken.

cheers
Niels

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

Hejda, Niels og andre danske venner!

Thanks a bunch for the interesting info above, Niels.

Even though it may not have occurred to you, I/we owe you and our other
Danish and Danophile members an apology for not having looked at the Danish
end of this discussion, considering your initial explanations, the
traditional links and influences as well as similarities of topography,
certainly in Jutland.  So thanks for reminding us that we should always
consider that connection, a link or overlap between Northern and Western
Germanic.

Now that you mentioned this, I checked several "older" Danish dictionaries
and found _kog_ listed, such as "Ko(o)g: _m_ indiget marskeng, kog" in
Langenscheidt's Danish-German-Danish dictionary, 1956 edition (_indiget
marskeng_ 'embanked marshland meadow', 'marshland meadow surrounded by
dikes').

Niels, you mentioned a recent "renaissance in std. Danish" of the word.  So
I assume that until recently the word was what might be called "dormant,"
i.e., used only in local dialects and/or specialist terminology, and a
political debate has reinstated it as a more widely used term.  Would that
be correct?

Hilsen,
Reinhard/Ron

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