LL-L "Names" 2003.09.01 (11) [E]

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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at pandora.be>
Subject: Names

Beste Allison (en andere liëglanners),

>So my question is: is the -loo in 'Waterloo' the same as this -lo in
>'Morslo'?   If not, do any of you know what it might be?

I couldn't tell you for sure, but it's quite likely. The reason is that
"lo(o)" can mean 4 different things in the Lowlands: 1) grassy place in a
forest with low timber, also woodland in general 2) low lying marshland,
especially in West-Flanders and Brabant 3) creek (being short for "lode" or
"loet" 4) location (~ Latin "locus")
The original denotation may have been: an open forest interspersed with
grasslands (~ Latin "lucus"). After clearing those woods, meaning number 2)
naturally came into being.
Anyway, in the case of "Waterloo", it's not certain that the first part
"water" is "Wasser" (G), "water" (E), but rather would it reflect the
Brabantish pronunciation of the name "Wouter" (D), "Walter" (E), both
derived of "Waldhari", just like it is passed on in the name of a nearby
village called "Woutersbrakel" (D), "Wauthier-Braine" (French).

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Names

Thanks for the above, Luc.

This/these "suffix(es)" frequently occur(s) in German place names as well,
especially in northern ones, such as in Oldesloe (also Oldeslo in the
Netherlands), Alvensloe, Gütersloh, Getelo, Löhe, Lohe, sometimes hidden, as
in Fintel (< *Ventlo).  This tends to be explained as meaning "wood(s)",
"grove."

I assume English -low and -loe are related to this; e.g. Fenton Low, Cauldon
Low, Grounds Low, Barlow, Botteslow, Warslow, Harlow, Cottesloe.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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