LL-L "Afrikaans" 2004.04.15 (05) [E]

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From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Afrikaans" 2004.04.15 (04) [E]

> > Speakers of Afrikaans:
> > 80.000 black
> > 2.730.000 coloured
> > 10.000 Asian
> > 2.920.000 white

Thanks for... errrr... ummm... clearing up the confusion... I think... :-P

All people are coloured, but some are more coloured that others - or
something like that? What about really dark South Africans from India? Would
you call them black, coloured, Asian or white (they're Aryans, after all)?

As these look like official statistics, there must be some kind of official
guidelines... or is it maybe that this was a poll, and people got to
indicate what they preferred to call themselves?

Gabriele Kahn

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Afrikaans

Gabriele:

> All people are coloured, but some are more coloured that others - or
> something like that?

Quit trying to make sense of this, Gabriele!  You must remember from living
in the US that most of today's "younger" Europeans aren't wired to think
along those more "subtle" "ethnic" categorization lines and have a hard time
tuning into that mindset (besides most "younger" Germans' understandable
refusal to be let down that old alley again or down anything that even
vaguely resembles it).

> What about really dark South Africans from India? Would
> you call them black, coloured, Asian or white (they're Aryans, after all)?

They are in the main of Dravidian or of part-Dravidian descent (i.e., are
descendants of the people that lived in India before the arrival of Aryans).
Dravidian languages (e.g., Kannada, Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam) -- which left
noticeable traces, especially phonological ones, in the Indo-Aryan
languages -- are not Indo-European but make up a language family of their
own.  As for those people's categorization in South Africa, I have no idea.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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