LL-L "Holidays" 2004.12.04 (08) [E/F]

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From: Henry Pijffers <henry.pijffers at saxnot.com>
Subject: LL-L "Holidays" 2004.12.03 (11) [E/F]

Ron schreev:
>
> Henry (benoarden):
>
>>And it's SinteRklaas (although I would pronounce it "sinteklaas").
>
> Ja, beste freon, miskien yn't Hollândsk.  We Friese neame de djure, âlde
man
> "Sinteklaas".  ;-)  (And I'm unanymous in that!)
>
>>In the Netherlands it's on the 5th of December, Ron, not the 6th.
>
> Ah! Dit is maklik te ferjitte. In Dútslân is it op de seisde (meidat we
der
> ferduldiger binne).
>
What's with the Frisian?

regards,
Henry

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Holiday

Henry (above):

> What's with the Frisian?

(I love your up-to-date idiomatic command of English!  My compliments!)

Well, Henry, as if that wasn't clear!  Do I need to spell it out for you
then?  Righto then!

(1) I had to find a face-saving way of justifying why I had written
"Sinteklaas" instead of "Sinterklaas." I thought that posing as a Frisian
might do the trick, since it's "Sinteklaas" in Westerlauwer ("West")
Frisian.

(2) It was a chance to ring the Frisian bell on this list, albeit ineptly.*
It's being rung way too rarely, and I fear our poor Henno's arms are getting
tired being the only ringer around here.  (Whenever I ring such bells I do
so in part to remind people that they are ringing them too rarely and that
it's all right to try your hands at writing in foreign languages.  I hope
that my assumedly numerous errors will amuse and otherwise entertain the
more competent, will perhaps even trigger linguistic epiphanies.)

(3) I was just being myself (two of my domestic nicknames being "parrot
head" and "Buttje" -- but that's only for you and me to know, Henry).  Also
remember that I have to live up to the reputation of my vulpine namesake
Reynard,** and he was a bit of a naughty boy, as you probably know.

Groete,
Reinhard/Ron

* Henno kindly and politely sent me corrections via private mail.  Thanks,
Henno!  Here a shot at a correct version:
Ja, bêste freon, miskien yn't Hollândsk. Wy Friezen neame de leave âldman
"Sinteklaas".
Ah! Dit is maklik te ferjitten. In Dútslân is it op de sechde (meidat wy der
ferduldiger binne).

** I just found confirmation of my name being derived from Old Saxon
Reginhard.

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