LL-L "Etymology" 2004.03.11 (03) [D/E]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Help needed" 2004.03.04 (04) [E]

> From: Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <dheghnom at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Vissevasse
>
> What does vysevaze mean here? Any relation with Danish "vissevasse"?
> (deu. Wisch(i)-Wasch(i)) ~ vrøvl, vås ~ rubbish!
>
> I read it in Reynke de Vos.
>
> Grymbart sprack vort: »nu klaget de haze
> Eyn mereken vnde eyne vysevaze.
>
> In Danish we say "vissevasse' for "rubbish", like
>
> "vissevasse, den hopper jeg skam ikke på! Sikke noget vås"
>
> Is 'eyn vysevaze' a person (here: animal) saying rubbish? or can it
> mean
> something else.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Kenneth
>
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> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Help needed
>
> Hey, Kenneth!
>
>> Grymbart sprack vort: »nu klaget de haze
>> Eyn mereken vnde eyne vysevaze.
>
> This is how I understand it (in English of about the same period):
>
> Grimbeard spake forth "now lamenteth the Hare
> A Fayned Fable and a Twittle-Twattle-Thynge.
>
> And in Modern English:
>
> Grimbeard continued, "Now the hare complained,
> 'A fairy-tale and a bunch of hooey!'
>
> So, I understand _vysevaze_ to be a countable noun in Middle Saxon, "a
> bunch
> of garbage," "a made-up, nonsensical story," etc.
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron
Hi Kennth and Ron,

Here is the Flemish meaning of the word:
 From De Bo dict.:
viezevaze/viezeveze:
hersenschim, droombeeld, dwaas gedacht, visioen, gril,...
(E:chimera, vision, foolish thaught, caprice,...)
Zijn hoofd zit vol viezevezen.
De systemen van de goddeloze filosofen zijn viezevezen.
Latijn: visum, spectrum: phantasma,phantasia.
Viezevezen, viezeveesde, heb geviezeveesd:
Zich met dwaze inbeeldingen bezighouden, grillige gedachten voeden,
dromen, visioenen.

Groetjes
luc vanbrabant
oekene

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