LL-L "Phonology" 2004.03.20 (02) [E]

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A=Afrikaans Ap=Appalachian B=Brabantish D=Dutch E=English F=Frisian
L=Limburgish LS=Lowlands Saxon (Low German) N=Northumbrian
S=Scots Sh=Shetlandic V=(West)Flemish Z=Zeelandic (Zeêuws)
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From: Frédéric Baert <baert_frederic at CARAMAIL.COM>
Subject: morphology

Hi to everybody

I have a question in mind :
I know about the first germanic sound shift and about the high german sound
shift. But I can't understand something : to the english word "seven",
dutch/flemish "zeven" correpond german "sieben", french "sept",
griek "hepta" or something like that. So lowlands languages seem to have
a "v" in place of a "b" in high german and a "p" in other european
languages. Kind of sound shift in lowlands languages. I think also about
english/dutch/flemish "half" german "halb" (I think). English "self",
flemish "zelve" and "zelvst" but german "selbst". Perhaps english "answer"
but dutch/flemish "antooren/antworen".
I'm sorry for eventual orthograph mistakes.
I did never read about this phenomenon. Can you give me informations about
it ?
Thank you
Frédéric Baert

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Hi, Frédéric!

Lowlands Saxon (Low German) has either /v/ or /b/ in such instances,
depending on the dialect.  (It is /b/ in the Lower Elbe region, for
instance.)  In Old Saxon, such instances are written with a barred "b"
(<ƀ>), which may mean that it was pronounced as a bilabial fricative, much
like Modern Spanish <b> and <v>.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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