LL-L "Phonology" 2004.10.10 (01) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2004.10.09 (03) [E]

Sandy wrote:
"hing /hIN/ - thing
onyhing /'onIhIN/ - anything
nuhing /'nuhIN/ - nothing
sumhing /'sVmhIN/ - something
aahing /'Q:hIN/ - everything

I assume the Derry form is therefore from Ulster Scots?"

Derry was and to some extent still a Scots-speaking city, especially the
closer one gets to the Laggan area in Donegal (which was identified as an
Ulster Scots "heartland"). I am not sure whether the initial [h] was carried
over from Scotland or if it derives from an Irish substrate (in Scots the
same phenomenon might derive from a Gaelic substrate).

Irish does not have [theta], and orthographically /th/ is pronounced [h]. It
usually derives from a lenited form of an earlier [t] as far as I know,
e.g., _cathair_ [ca'h at r] 'city' (originally 'fort') was probably in Old
Irish (and therefore Old Scottish Gaelic) *catir or *catar. (I am
digressing. I do not know.)

To cut to the chase, it is entirely possible that the Derry form _hing_
derives from Irish. In any case, if Scots _hing_ is caused by Gaelic
phonology, they both ultimately derive from the same source.

Go raibh maith agat,

Criostóir.

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