LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.12.06 (07) [E]

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06 December 2005 * Volume 07
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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.12.06 (06) [E/E]

Yes, irregular, but we Neerlandophones already explained that "zich" is a 
later loan-word from High German.
Speaking of irregularity and German, I'd like to pose the question if it 
isn't irregular that German does have "sich" but not *"sir", like it does 
have the pairs "mich-mir" and "dich-dir". And what about "euch", no *"eur" 
next to it?

ich mich mir
du dich dir
er ihn ihm   + sich
sie ihr      + sich
wir uns
ihr euch
sie ihr      + sich

Ingmar

>R. F. Hahn 
>It's about the ending: _-k_ or _-ch_.  In German and Low Saxon it's 
regular
>between the first and third (reflexive) pronoun:
>German: _ich_, sich_ (also _mich_ and _dich_  for the 1st and 2nd persons)
>Low Saxon: _ik_, _sik_ (in Eastphalian also _mik_ and _dik_ for _mi_ and
>_di_)
>Dutch: _iK_ vs _ziCH_
>... and that's irregular.

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