LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.02 (10) [E]

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From: David Barrow <davidab at telefonica.net.pe>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.02 (05) [E]

> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Language varieties
>
> Gabriele (above):
>
>> I suppose the writer must have been over 40, then. I have come across
>> this
>> kind of construction more than once, unfortunately; the perpetrators are
>> usually the same people who would say things like "it was a great
>> opportunity for my wife and I".
>
> Don't you think this is in the same league with some English speakers
> (only
> American or also others?) who, beginning as early as in the 19th century
> (when "thou," "thee," "thine," "thy" and "ye" had already given way to
> "you"
> and "your(s)"), wanted to sound "biblically correct" and used objective
> "thee" in place of nominative "thou" and "objective "ye" in place of
> nominative "you"?  For example, "Thee have sinned most gravely, Brother"
> (instead of correct "Thou hast sinned most gravely, Brother," if not
> contemporary "You have sinned most gravely, Brother"), and "Oh, ye fickle
> people of Chestertown, what have ye done now?" (instead of correct
> "Oh, you
> fickle people of Chestertown, what have you done now?").
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

Ron,

Ye is nominative not objective.

David Barrow

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Oopsie-daisy!  But of coooourse!  Like in Low Saxon (nom. jy, obj. j(o)u)!

Ah, well!  You passed today's sneak pop quiz, David, and you'll get a gold
star.  Of course I was just testing ....  ;-]

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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