LL-L "Idiomatica" 2005.06.29 (05) [E]

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From: Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L language forms -slang

Hi all,

Talking of the slang Afrikaans form:  Isit?? (from E. "Is it?")

A year ago I sat in a restaurant in New Glascow, Nova Scotia,
and while the waiter tried to explain why the curry chicken with
raisins and almonds was good, I did not realize that I was
repeatedly saying "Oh, is it?", with the typical higher pitched "it",
when he suddenly said " From where in South Africa are you?"

Turns out that he left Durban at age 10 but his mother still says
"Is-uht??"

Incidentally Ron, Piet-my-vrous is the English plural form for the bird.
This bird is typically solitary and when the need arises to use the
plural we'd say: Het jy die Piet-my-vrou al hier tee"gekom?

Groete,
Elsie Zinsser

>...en bohaai maak soos Piet-my-vrous of kw?vo?ls.
>Isit?

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Idiomatica

I often hear "is it?" (or "isn't it?) used as a generalized question or tag 
among (South-)East Asian speakers of English, especially among people from 
Malaysia, Singapore and Hong Kong.  I strongly suspect this to be a 
substitute for generally applicable Cantonese 係唔係 _hăi m hăi_, Mandarin 是不是 
_shi bu shi_, etc., literally "is not is".

Thus, e.g.,
"He come today, is(n't) it?"
"Electronics are cheap here, is(n't) it?"
"These are all yours, la!" "Is it?"

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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