LL-L "Orthography" 2005.03.17 (06) [E]

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From: Þjóðríkr Þjóðreksson <didimasure at hotmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Orthography" 2005.03.17 (01) [E]


>>Do not represent
>>phonetic
>>"bells and whistles," such as lengthening before sonorants; e.g.,
>><land>
>>rather than *<laand> for [la.nt] 'land', <hart> rather than
>>*<haart> for
>>[ha:t] 'heart', and <kray> rather than *<kraay> for [kra.I] 'crow',
>>unless
>>these clearly contrast with short versions (i.e., [an], [a] and
>>[aI]
>>respectively in this case).

Interesting... I didn't know such lengthening took place in LS as well...
Ignorant as I was I represented this in the spelling of my Wren-tale because
I thought it was something proper to my region and thus should be written
for the interest of the reader :)
Some examples in the story are "d' aand", de hand/the hand, "daarft",
durft/dare which I suspect to come from an underlying derft (compare
Antwerpen:Aantwaarpe(n) with er>ar>aar) for some hypothetic reasons.
I do not dare bother you guys with YET another (third) time of working and
changing everything onto the site - I leave it up to you if it's important
enough to remove or not.

Diederik Masure

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Orthography

Haai, Diederik!

Well, it's really up to you if you would still like to change it. Mathieu
and I wouldn't be all that annoyed.  We'd spank you only ever so slightly.
;-)

Nice, though, that this exchange has taught you that "pre-sonorant vowel
lengthening" is a very wide-spread feature in the "Low German" group (i.e.,
Low Franconian and Low Saxon).

It's pleasing to observe your interest and ethusiasm, Diederik.

Hold vast!

Reinhard/Ron

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