LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.16 (01) [A/E]

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From: Kevin Caldwell <kcaldwell31 at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.15 (04) [E/Yiddish]

> From: Ben J. Bloomgren <godsquad at cox.net>
> Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.14 (08) [E]
>
> English Smear
>
> >From where then does the term "smore" come? To us here in America, a
> smore
> is two Gram/graham crackers in the form of a sandwich with a Reece's
> chocolate and roasted marshmallows. Is there any crazy relation to Smear
> and
> Schmier?
> Ben

The only explanation I've ever heard for the origin of the word "smore" (and
sometimes it is written "s'more", which offers a clue in this direction), is
that after you've had one, you want "some more" -> "s'more".  I'm pretty
sure they originated as campfire treats in the Girl Scouts.

And, of course, my favorite variety of Girl Scout cookies is the Samoas,
which, I think, derive their name in the same way: "some more" -> "samoa".

Kevin Caldwell

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From: Arthur Jones <arthurobin2002 at yahoo.com>
Subject: "Delectables" 2005.05.15 [E/App/G/Y]

From: Arthur Jones arthurobin2002 at yaho.com

Hails Dalaulandarjeis,

Larry Granberg schreev,

>In one restaurant, in (don't snicker now) West
Virginia, >the cooks there who wouldn't know a rugelah
from a pig in >a blanket had on the menu "bagels
shmeered with butter >and bacon." I thought that they
were having a joke, but >the waitress was quite
serious. Oh well."

Nai, frauje Gronifairguns, ik ni laha, ith ik graita.

No, Lord Granberg, I do not snicker, I weep.
On your Journey to the Southwest, did you chance to
meet any decent, smiling, friendly or helpful natives?
Did you see any foggy mountaintops, any shaggy steep
ridges that made your heart pound and your spirit
soar?
Did you perhaps note the modest dwellings of the
hard-working people, their trademarks of generosity in
poverty?

All my professional life I have had to fight against
folks snickering when West Virginia was mentioned. If
you study our history, our problems, our struggle, you
might well feel rage, pity, indignation, empathy. Do
you snicker at the homeless, the addicted, the
poverty-stricken in New York?

But enough. We were speaking of "shmear", and before
that, of "Mutton suet" and "beef tallow". Now, oddly
enough, they converge. First, when I studied at Bonn,
I made the (this is truly snickerable!) moronic
mistake of pledging a German student fraternity
(Markomannia Bonn in MK; fakultativ schlagend). When a
sabre duel (Mensur) resulted in a bleeding wound to
the face (schmiss), it was sometimes _geschmiert_ with
_Rindertalg_ : smeared with beef suet-- before being
stitched closed by the attending doctor. This later
gave the scar a dark hue that made it contrast with
the rest of the face; to call attention to one's
bravery, as it were.

I doubt it was kosher. The participants were more
concerned with _parieren_ than with _parva_.

This should be enough to turn all of you vegetarian!

And Larry, I hope your next visit to Appalachia will
be less culturally and intellectually disappointing.

Wairthai,

Arthur

"Those who are led to believe absurdities can also be
made to commit atrocities."
----Voltaire.

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From: Global Moose Translations <globalmoose at t-online.de>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.15 (04) [E/Yiddish]

Ben Blloomgren wrote:
> >From where then does the term "smore" come? To us here in America, a
smore
> is two Gram/graham crackers in the form of a sandwich with a Reece's
> chocolate and roasted marshmallows. Is there any crazy relation to Smear
and
> Schmier?

Ben, you must be joking?! You're talking about a S'More, which is short for
"some more".
So, no relation, I'm afraid...

Gabriele Kahn

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From: Heinrich <heinrich.becker at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.15 (04) [E/Yiddish]

> From: Ben J. Bloomgren <godsquad at cox.net>
> Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.14 (08) [E]
>
> English Smear
>
>> From where then does the term "smore" come? To us here in America, a
>> smore
>
> is two Gram/graham crackers in the form of a sandwich with a Reece's
> chocolate and roasted marshmallows. Is there any crazy relation to
> Smear and
> Schmier?
> Ben

The word "smear", "Schmiere" in all its varieties and similarities seems
to be a basic and very common  word in all Germanic languages.
Friends of Scandinavia think of wonderful Danish "SMÖRREBRÖD". Smör or
smörre means just butter! They don't have another word for it..

Heinrich Becker

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From: jpkrause <jpkrause at sunflower.com>
Subject: Re: Delectables

>From: Ben J. Bloomgren <godsquad at cox.net>
>
>English Smear
>
>>>From where then does the term "smore" come? To us here in America, a smore
>is two Gram/graham crackers in the form of a sandwich with a Reece's
>chocolate and roasted marshmallows. Is there any crazy relation to Smear
>and
>Schmier?
>Ben

I remember these from my youth.  The story as it came to me was that the
word "smore" comes from  a corruption of "some more" because once you've
eaten one, you want some more.  Ben, you indicate an interesting
variation.  We used bits from a Hershey chocolate bar
Jim Krause

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From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.15 (04) [E/Yiddish]

Ben asked: "Smores...Is there any crazy relation to Smear and Schmier?"
I doubt it.  I was always told that they're called "smores" because after
you have one you want "some more" which you shorten to 'smore, as in "I want
'smore."
Mark Brooks

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From: Ben J. Bloomgren <godsquad at cox.net>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.15 (06) [E]

Isn't fat really difficult to chew? It frankly sounds nasty.

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From: Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2005.05.13 (03) [A/E]

Haai almal,

Hier in die suiderland van Afrika (meer spesifiek in ons skaapwêreld),
eet ons graag "kaiings". Kaiings is afgekookte skaapvet wat uiteindelik
soos vetterige krummels lyk. Dis lekker op 'n dik sny boerbrood en word
met 'n soetigheid soos gekookte kwepers, moskonfyt (druiwe moes) of
heuning geeët.

Winteraande is nie dieselfde sonder "melkkos", wat soos Mennoniete "Seete
Malkschi Moos" gemaak word, maar waarby ons Afrikaners kaneel bystrooi.

Honger is die beste kok!

Groete,
Elsie Zinsser

[As far as this _tal(li)g_ / _Talg_ (tallow, suet) on bread thing goes...]

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Delectables

Elsie (hierbo):

> Honger is die beste kok!

Nedersaksies:
Hunger drivt 't rin.
(Hunger drifft 't rin.)

Groete,
Reinhard/Ron

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