LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.19 (14) [E]

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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.19 (09) [E]

Diederik Masure wrote:
"I hope I can post my linguistic comments on my 5-day trip to Ireland soon!"

I hope so, too. Whereabouts in Ireland - north and south - did you (or are
you planning to) visit? There is a wealth of linguistic interest here, no
doubt about it.

Go raibh maith agat,

Criostóir.

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2005.05.19 (09) [E]

I read that book on the history of ABN - Dutch formal standard language -
a few months ago, but I believe the so-called myths that "are broken" in
it weren't myths at all. It claims that the Southern Dutch of the Flemish
immigrants who came to Holland à masse in the sixteenth century had little
influence on the formation of ABN, contrary to common believes, but they
overlooked many basic words of Flemish hintergrund in ABN, like <u> vs
<jou>, <werpen> vs <gooien>, <schoon> vs <mooi> and many more, which have
a formal connotation in Dutch ears but are normal in Belgium.
Ingmar

>Diederik:
>Doing research on standard language and dialect for a school project,
>yesterday I encountered this myth-breaking article:
>http://taalschrift.org/reportage/000659.html
>Quite interesting, though presenting it in the class tomorrow (when we
have
>to give a whole lesson about the subject) won't make the feelings for our
>standard language much bigger I think...
>Lately - as we've been touching upon the subject for some weeks now in
Dutch
>classes - I found out that youth regains interest in dialect, and that the
>love is far from gone :)
>
>Greets from Antwerp,
>Diederik Masure
>
>P.S. I hope I can post my linguistic comments on my 5-day trip to Ireland
>soon!

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