LL-L "Etymology" 2005.11.04 (01) [A/D/E]

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04 November 2005 * Volume 01
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From: Kevin and Cheryl Caldwell <kevin.caldwell1963 at verizon.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.11.03 (12) [E]

> > krül (<Krüll>)
>
> Literally, it means 'curl', 'twist', 'swirl', 'kink' or 'wrinkle', and it
> appears to be a cognate of metathesized English "curl," the pre-metathesis
> English version "crull" now being obsolete, having numerous cognates in
> various Germanic language varieties.

Going off on a tangent, I note the English word "cruller", a type of pastry, 
usually twisted or ring-shaped.

Kevin Caldwell

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From: Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L lexicon

Dag julle!

In Afrikaans is die volgende kindertaal woorde gebruiklik vir
die beskeie penis:

- tolleman (in ons huis met ons amper 5-jarige kleinseun)
- trossie of tros
- vo?ltjie of vo?l

Groete,
Elsie Zinsser

>Ik kin dat wurd net yn it Nederl?nsk, mar it Frysk hat 'pilemantsje' foar 
>dat ding.
>_Pillerman_ (<Pillermann>) in Hamborgsch Neddersassisch un Missingsch --  
>man
>pintle* tadger tossle whang

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.31 (011) [D/E]


  Luc wrote:


    In Flanders we still use the word "ajuin" in our daily Dutch 
vocabularium.
    In our own dialect we rather say "anjoen / andjoen". We even have some
    sayings:
    -andjoens zaaien =  vloeken (E: to curse)
    -gekleêd zijn lik ne rauwn andjoen = veel kleren aanhebben (E: to be


  dressed


    very warmly)
    -andjoens in de maone zaoien = met gedachten bezig zijn die bij de zaak 
niet
    horen, of, iets willen doen dat onmogelijk is (E: to try to do the
    impossible)


  Jazooo... I've only seen it written, and somehow I thought the stress 
would
  be on the second syllable. But if you stress the first syllable, "ajuin"
  sounds just like "uien", and "anjoen" sounds just like "onion". So, can 
you
  tell me how to pronounce this? I've only seen it written, after all.


  Gabriele Kahn
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Hi Gabriele,
The stress is on the second syllable for the two words.
- ajuin  [A"j9yn]
- anjoen [An"Zun],  andjoen [An"dZun]


Groetjes
Luc Vanbrabant
Oekene

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>From Alfred Adler: adler.quatuor at tiscali.fr
Subject: LL-L ' Lexicon' Ron Hahn

In Neddersassisch ook:

pydel (<Piedel>)
pytel (<Pietel>)
pyhaan (<Piehahn>)
pytaan (<Piethahn>)
pint (<Pint>)* ->
Krül (<Krüll>)

*Schotsch (Scots):
pintle*
tadger
tossle
whang

I do remember in ancient Dutch the word: Krul which meant to be the
public urinoir, or openbare waterplaats.
My grandmother hated to live near the place where a local  'krul' stood.
If the wind went West, she could not have her windows open any more.
Modern techniques at the time did not imply  that  running water washed
the  krul clean.

In France the openbare waterplaats is named Vespasienne..... does anyone
knows where that comes from originally ?
Bonjour d'Alfred

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From: Brooks, Mark <mark.brooks at twc.state.tx.us>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.11.03 (12) [E]

"(less than gentile Scots expression)"

Let's see what could that mean?  Less than gentile...hmm...I'm stumped (pun
intended).

Mark Brooks

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Well, I'm glad you passed the attention test, Mark.  Just checking if 
nuestro Marquitos was with us or was spacing out.  Not that it was a genuine 
typo *or* a code switching glitch on my part, mind you (une expression moins 
que gentille, una expressió menys que gentil, una expresión menos que 
gentil, uma expressão menos do que gentil, un'espressione meno di gentile, 
ina espressiun damein sur gentil, un expresie mai puţin decît gentil).  Oh, 
no!

Have a nice weekend!
Reinhard/Ron 

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