LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.11 (02) [E/LS]

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   L O W L A N D S - L * 11 October 2005 * Volume 02
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From: Heinrich <heinrich.becker at gmx.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.10 (03) [E/LS]

> From: jonny <jonny.meibohm at arcor.de>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2005.10.10 (02) [E/F]
>
> An al de grouten Lekkersnuten:
>
> Luc schreev:
>
>> 'Snoepen' in Flemish is "sneukelen", and 'snoep' is "sneukelgoed".
>
> Wi seggt hier ouk 'sneukern, schnökern' un 'Sneuker-/Schnökerkroom'.
>
> _Schnabuleeren_ ward mennigmol ouk as G: 'plappern', E: 'to babble, to
> chatter' bruukt- man vandoog meyr in Houghdyytsch, 'schnabulieren'.
>
> Greutens/Regards
>
> Johannes "Jonny" Meibohm
>
> ----------
>
> From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Etymology
>
> Jonny:
>
>> _Schnabuleeren_ ward mennigmol ouk as G: 'plappern', E: 'to babble, to
>> chatter' bruukt- man vandoog meyr in Houghdyytsch, 'schnabulieren'.
>
> Wat?!  In den sin hev ik dat bit her tou nich hoyrd.  Seed' eyn tou my
> "Unsere Frauen sind gerade am Schnabulieren," den versta ik dat as "Us
> vrouensluyd' sünd jüstemang by tou snabbeln."
>
> Ja, "snabbeln" is ook so 'n wourd vör _naschen_.
>
> And then there is another verb derived from German _Schnabel_ and Low
> Saxon _snavel_ 'beak': German _schnäbeln_, Low Saxon _snaveln_ ~
> _sneveln_, both reflexive = reciprocal.  It's what birds do with their
> beaks, looking like kissing to us, and this is why you can also use
> these verbs to mean 'to kiss'.
>
> Are there any Lowlands relatives?
>
> Regards,
> Reinhard/Ron

Leiwe Lüüd.

in miin Münsterländisch Platt seggt man "schnopen". Dat hört sick an as
fl."snoepen". Et meent: een is halflegal achter Sötigkeiten her. Dat
engelsche Woord "to snoop" HG: "herumschnüffeln" liikt auk dorup, et is
oaber nich datsölbe.

Gued Goahn
Heinrich Becker

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Etymology

Dag, beste Heinrich!

"Snoupen" (<snopen> ["snoUp=m]) segt wy in't Nourd-Sassische vun de 
Nedderelv' ook, mit dat sülvige beduyden, man wy segt dat mit "s-t..." (as 
in Ingelsch _snow_).  In 't Missingsch un in wat blanker schuyrde 
Nourdduytsche dialekten segt wy den ook _schnopen_.

> Dat
> engelsche Woord "to snoop" HG: "herumschnüffeln" liikt auk dorup, et is
> oaber nich datsölbe.

Ja, in eyn sin is dat wul dat sülvige, un dat is sachs de öldere:

"To appropriate and consume dainties in a clandestine manner"

Up Amerikaansch Ingelsch wardt dat mennig maal noch in düssen sin bruukt. 
Middel-Nedderlandsch _snoepen_ un Middel-Sassisch ("Middelnedderduytsch") 
_snôpen_ har jüstemang düt hyr beduyden.

"To go around in a sly or prying manner" un "to pry into matters one need 
not be concerned with" sünd schynts later beduyden.  Semantisch dayt 
"heymlich" (secretly) dat allens verbinden, un daar wegen kan or kun dat 
mennig maal ook "klauen" beduyden, tou eyrst sachs klauen vun lekkere 
happen.

Ingelsch _to snoop_ kümt vun Nedderlandsch _snoepen_ (["snup@(n)]) af.  My 
dücht dat het mit kontakten twüschen Nedderlandsch un Ingelsch in Amerika 
an-vungen.

Kumpelmenten,
Reinhard/Ron

P.S.: I'm just about off to the airport, catching a flight to California. 
See you from there, folks. 

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