LL-L "Names" 2005.10.14 (01) [E/S]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 12 October 2005 * Volume 01
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From: "Andy Eagle" <andy at scots-online.org>
Subject: LL-L "Names" 2005.10.06 (05) [E/N]

Heather an Glenn thanks for the feedback on 'Hope'. I'd often seen it in
place names in southern Scotland but was unaware of its being used as an
independent lexeme.

I had a look in the SND:
A small upland valley or hollow enclosed at the upper end by green hills or
ridges. Very common in Border place-names.

Thare's also Hope as a small bay or haven.

heather wrote:

> >'hope' <
>
> Usually means 'Valley' of the type with no thoroughfare i.e.  a U shaped
> valey

Glenn wrote

> On 'Hope' - I consulted the bible of Northumbrian
> place names by Godfrey Watson and he describes 'hope'
> as a "small enclosed or blind valley branching out
> from the main dale", and a Northumbrian Hope is a
> "strip of better land in valley that is narrower than
> a 'Dene', less precipitous than a 'Cleugh' (Ravine)
> and more sheltered and less likely to flood than a
> 'Haugh' (flat ground by a stream)".
>
> However while looking through this book on place names
> I found an interesting bit of verbage, which I wasn't
> aware. There is a place called 'The pingle' in
> Northumberland which is apparently old English for a
> small enclosure.
>
> Apparently the phrase "to pingle" in Northumberland
> means to work away at something without much success.
> This leads on to a local expresssion: when someone is
> anxious not to pay for someone else they would say:
> "gan pingle in yur ain poke neuk", in english: "fish
> around in the corner of your own pocket"
>
> Any similar expressions or linguistic links in
> lowlands?

Scots haes pingle an aw:
To strive, contend, compete; to quarrel, fight, disagree.
To struggle at a difficult task, to work in a close, laborious, painstaking
way, to expend effort and energy to little purpose, to drudge.
To trifle, dabble or meddle with, have dealings in or wi(th); to work in a
lazy, handless way.
To grow weary, to tire.

Aiblins adae wi A-S  pyngan or Norse pyngja

Andy Eagle

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