LL-L "Phonology" 2005.01.02 (01) [E]

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L O W L A N D S - L * 02 January 2006 * Volume 01
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From: "Ingmar Roerdinkholder" <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2005.12.28 (02) [E]

I'd like to say something more about the nature of Dutch <v>, which seems
to be so hard to distinguish from Dutch <f> or <w> for foreigners:

compare:

*Efen   ["e:f@]   = plural of male name Eef [e:f]; with proper <f>
*even   ["e:f\@]  = even, equally, just; with that special [f\] sound
*Ewe    ["e:v@]   = Ewe, African people/language; with Engl. <v> sound
*eeuwen ["e:w@]   = ages, plural of "eeuw"; with Engl. <w> sound

note that final <-n> in <-en> isn't pronounced usually in spoken Dutch,
and that [e:] is actually a diphthong [e:I] in many pronunciations in the
Netherlands.

So here we see the whore range: [f] - [f\] - [v] (or [v\]?) - [w].

Ingmar

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Phonology

Thanks, Ingmar.

Not that I want to necessarily complicate matters, but it ought to be
added that what you describe as [w] is [P] (IPA cursive v) in many Dutch
varieties, namely a labiodental approximant (which is also the predominant
realization of /v/ in Southern Asia, in South Asian English the
realization of both /v/ and /w/).

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron

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