LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.07 (04) [D/E]

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   L O W L A N D S - L * 07 January 2006 * Volume 04
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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.07 (01) [E]

Ben wrote: "do the Walloons move two phonemes into one with f and v? That
is, do they pronounce geven the same as they pronounce telefon?"
No, right the opposite. The f and v are two distinct phonemes for
Francophone people. They don't mistake one for the other. The phonemic
differnce is between strong voicing and no voicing.

Kind regards,

Roger

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From: Roger Hondshoven <roger.hondshoven at pandora.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.01.04 (05) [D]

Ingmar Roerdinkholder schreef:
"De diftongische <ee>, <oo>, <eu>, de harde <g>, de <-en> als schwa zijn
allemaal een doodnormaal onderdeel van de standaarduitspraak in Nederland.
Dat dit in Vlaanderen anders is vindt niemand hier in het noorden een
probleem, waarom zou dat andersom wel zo moeten zijn?"

Globaal gezien ben ik het daar wel mee eens. Als de diftongering echter te
sterk wordt, vind ik het wel enigszins storend. De opgesomde speciale
trekken van het Hollands ervaart een Vlaming als grappig. Ze worden dan ook
vaak voor de grap geïmiteerd. Anderzijds zullen een aantal Vlaamse
eigenaardigheden bij de Nederlanders eveneens op de lachspieren werken.

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Roger Hondshoven 

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