LL-L "Language politics" 2006.01.24 (02) [E]

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24 January 2006 * Volume 01
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From: Críostóir Ó Ciardha <paada_please at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2006.01.23 (07) [E]


Andrys wrote:
"Yehannes Ytsma has written a paper on this... One of the recurring issues 
is that Frisian has (had to) become standardized. Few regions, cities and 
towns speak it without significant idiosyncratic variations."

Thanks for the excellent link on Frisian usage in schools.

Here in Ireland we have, in practice, no standard Irish. There are three 
main "local" literary varieties - Ulster (based on Donegal Irish), Connacht 
(based on Conmara Irish) and Munster (based on Kerry Irish). The differences 
are phonemic, lexical (including quite basic lexicon, such as the words for 
"hear") and grammatical.

Conmara Irish is usually considered the standard because it is the form most 
likely to be (although not exclusively) used in the media. Nevertheless, 
intelligibility is not guaranteed if you know one variety and try to use it 
in the area of another. For that rea! son people who have learnt Irish in 
one area (say, Conmara) and who move elsewhere (say, Donegal) may choose to 
learn the second dialect to be understood. (I had to do so.)

Leinster uses Connacht Irish as little was recorded of Leinster Irish (which 
was divided into a northern and southern variant, with the northern variant 
being closer to east Ulster Irish) before its ceased to be a community 
language. Donegal Irish serves as the template for the Irish of the rest of 
Ulster, including Belfast, though Belfast Irish is now considered to have 
its own distinct form.

Go raibh maith agat,

Criostóir. 

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