LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.12 (08) [E]

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   L O W L A N D S - L * 12 March 2006 * Volume 08
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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <ingmar.roerdinkholder at WORLDONLINE.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2006.03.12 (01) [E]

Hey, that's funny, [S] for [tS] is just like the 'sloppy' way of 
pronouncing English loanwords by the Dutch, e.g. Dutch 'checken'
["SEk@] rather than ["tSEk@(n)].

Btw in most Arabic dialects, i.e. the spoken language in Arabic countries,
'j' in words like jazeera or jihad is pronounced [Z], not [dZ] as in 
Classical and Modern standard Arabic. In some dialects, e.g. Iraqi and 
Algerian, it is preserved as [dZ], and in Egyptian (Cairene) it is [g].
Anyway, CNN-pronos like [Zi"hA:d] and [Za"zi:ra] are not incorrect in that 
light.

Ingmar     

>Kevin Caldwell:
>
>Having said that, I'd like to add something that I've noticed in recent
>years.  More and more Americans seem to be pronouncing [C] like [S], so 
that
>a word like 'check' comes out sounding as if it were spelled 'sheck'. I've
>also noticed a lot of Americans, especially in the news media, pronouncing
>the letter 'j' like [Z] rather than [dZ], especially in words and names 
from
>Arabic, like 'al-Jazeera' or 'jihad'.
>
>Kevin Caldwell

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