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From: Luc Hellinckx <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

Beste Ron,

You wrote:
>
> This is very interesting.  But how did maskee (= maski = ma-si-ki) get
> to the Chinese coast?
>
> The core of the language is English on Chinese (originally Cantonese)
> substrate, and it contains some Portuguese-derived words ( e.g.,
> pequeno 'small (one)' > pikanini 'small', 'child'), which is
> understandable considering historical contacts (such as in Macau,
> e.g., late 18th century: Carey grandi hola, pickenini hola? < Port.
> Quer uma grande puta ou uma pequena puta? "Do you want a big or little
> whore?"). Later on, other dialects were developed from this, such as
> in multinationally occupied Shanghai (with Wu admixture) and in
> German-occupied Tianjin (Tientsin) and Shandong (Shantung).  I am
> wondering if maskee was imported by English speakers from another
> colony which had had direct or indirect contacts with Dutch, perhaps
> Sri Lanka (Ceylon) or Malaya, or somewhere in the Caribbean area.
>
Think it may have something to do with the Dutch ruling Taiwan in the
17th century. There seems to have been quite a lot of trade going on
with Fujian province (import of laborers). Read more here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Dutch_rule

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx

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From: R. F. Hahn < sassisch at yahoo.com
Subject: Etymology

Good point, Luc!

And the Portuguese had been there too, of course, hence the older name
Formosa (from *Ilha Formosa* 'Beautiful Island').

Thanks.

Reinhard/Ron

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