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L O W L A N D S - L - 30 March 2007 - Volume 01

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From: john welch <sjswelch at yahoo.com.au>
Subject: History

Here is a quote from David Faux "DNA Origins of R1a, Q and K in
Scandinavia".
His history may be as brave as his science is:

(quote)."Basically Snorri said that the ancestors of the Norse kings resided
east of the river Don, and were led by Odin, who had vast holdings south of
the Ural Mountains. He and his people were known as Ases, or Asir, and after
many battles (in one case his possession of a severed head is emphasized),
he left two brothers in charge of his main power base along a ridge of the
Caucasus Mountains (Asgaard - likely Chasgar) and with his people headed
north. Most, however were men as apprently they took "women of the land" in
Scandanavia as wives.

When he reached Sweden he negotiated a power sharing arrangement with then
King Gyfir who was made a deal he could not refuse (the Aser / Ases having a
mighty army) and Odin lived at Gamla Uppsala on Lake Malar in Sweden where
he died and was buried. This would have been approximately 450 AD. There are
3 burial mounds (an old Scythian burial tradition not seen in Sweden until
then)
/..coff,coff .John..../ at Gamla Uppsala dated to the 5th and 6th Centuries
and associated with descendants of Odin mentioned in the Yngling Sagas.

It seems that the people noted by Snorri the Ases (Alans), or Asir may have
been the Azer (which means Fire in Persian and High in Turkic), ancestors to
the Azerbaijanis. Recall that of all the groups anywhere only the Azeri
sample contained individuals whose haplotypes were very similar to the three
Shetland participants. As a matter of fact the Azeri K was a 10/11 match to
the Shetland participant. These were perhaps the group led by the "two
brothers" of Odin, who in recent times have seen large scale migrations of
Middle Eastern peoples such that presently the dominant presently is J.

In Scandanavia I estimate that about 40% of the R1a, and all of the Q and K
can be traced to the Alani - Hun migration in the early 400s BC.

Concerning R1a, the three markers of most consequence in teasing out the
European variety in Norway from the Asian type appear to be DYS19,
DYS389i,ii, and YCAIIa,b. Others also have predictive value (but oddly, none
in the second panel of 13 markers) and I will be developing an algorithm to
separate out the R1a Norwegians who closely resemble the Eastern Europeans
(also seen in their match profile in the Haplogroup Database of FTDNA), from
those whose ancestors appear to have originated in Kazakhstan. All of this
information with specific modal haplotypes of every conceivable population
for R1a, Q, and K will soon be avaiable on my website (if permission can be
granted to publish summaries of the data owned by genetic researchers)."(end
quote).

John Welch

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