LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.06 (03) [D/E]

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From: Theo Homan <theohoman at yahoo.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.06 (01) [E]

> From: Maria Elsie Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
> Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.05 (02) [E]
>
> Hi all
>
> But skuur exists in the meanings rub, scrape, scrub
> scour.
> Is skoorsteen not then related to these?
>
> Elsie Zinsser

Ach, Elsie:

Een wijze vrouw [genaamd Elsie] kan meer vragen dan
Theo kan beantwoorden.
Bij dit geval herinner ik me dat men 'schoorsteen'
laat vallen in de woordfamilie van 'schoren' =
steunen, stutten [bouwtechnisch] = eng. shore.
Er moet bij dit 'schoren' zeker wel een zuidafr.
parallel zijn.

vr.gr.
Theo Homan

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From:Jacqueline Bungenberg de Jong <Dutchmatters at comcast.net>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.11.06 (01) [E]

Hi Elsie, "Schoorsteen" is derived from the verb "schoren" which means
something like "to hold upright" If you build a schoorsteen in the middle of
your house (hovel is maybe a better choice of words here) it will keep
standing. There is also a word "scheerlijn" which means a line used to keep
a  sail straight.

I remember a fatal invention of a "scheerlijn" which my friend Loes and I
applied between the two tent poles of our tent to keep the top flyer from
sagging onto the tent proper. We did this so that the inner tent would
remain dry in case of rain.. We were "camping" in the dunes of the Isle of
Texel. Unfortunately it started raining. The string shrunk and finally
broke. The whole tent (which we had baptized the "Zwangere Zeug" ) collapsed
and left us in a puddle. We had to flee to the hotel where my parents were
staying. My father used the opportunity to give me a lecture in mechanics,
my mother ordered hot chocolate.

I do not know whether "schoor" as wet-land outside the dikes and "schoor" as
in schoorsteen have anything to do with each other.

I would not be surprised. Jacqueline

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