LL-L "Language varieties" 2007.11.24 (09) [E]

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.24 (01) [E]

From: Paul Finlow-Bates <wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Language politics" 2007.11.23 (05) [E]


So...just out of curiosity, what is the German name for Aachen?  I seem to
recall seeing that on road signs in Koeln, but I could be mistaken.

Paul Finlow-Bates (who also hadn't realised that "Aix-la-Chapelle" and
"Aachen" were the same place!!)

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From: R. F. Hahn < sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language politics

It's *Aachen*, Paul. It's *Aken *in Dutch and *Oche *in the local Ripuarian
dialects.

Apparently, in English there's now a tendency toward "Aachen".

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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Thanks Reinhard;

Now all I have to do is find out more about the local Ripuarian dialects.
It's a maze, this language business; every answer creates 10 more questions.

Paul

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From: R. F. Hahn < sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties

Hi, Paul!

Please check the following to start with:

Ripuarian generally:

   - Wikipedia - English:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripuarian_%28language%29
   - Wikipedia - German:
   http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripuarische_Dialektgruppe
   - Wikipedia - Cologne Ripurarian:
   http://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoar%C4%97sch_%28Shprooch%29

Aachen Ripuarian (*Öcher Platt*):

   - Wikipedia - English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96cher_Platt
   - Wikipedia - German: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96cher_Platt
   - Wikipedia - Cologne Ripuarian:
   http://ksh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96cher_Platt
   - The language association: http://www.oecher-platt.de/

The book-CD package *Tuur dörch Oche | Tour durch Aachen | Tour of Aachen |
Tour d'Aix-la-Chapelle* comes in Ripuarian, Standard German, English and
French: http://www.oecher-platt.de/frmset_01.htm

The most widely know Ripuarian dialect may be that of Cologne.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
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