LL-L "Delectables" 2008.09.19 (02) [A/E]

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From: E Zinsser <ezinsser at icon.co.za>
Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2008.09.18 (01) [LS]

Hoi Alltohoop,

In Afrikaans ken ons ook kardamom ('n saadpakkie met geurige klein
saadjies), komynsaad en karwysaad.

Kardamom smaak goed in vleiskosse en in soetkosse.

Komyn saad lyk baie soos anys saad maar smaak minder soethouterig
('liquirice') as anys en is lekker in vleiskosse.

Karwysaad is effe groter as komyn, 'n bietjie gekrom en ideaal
in groentekosse soos rooikool en boerkool maar ook in kaas!

As enige Laaglander ooit hier in Johannesburg kom kuier, sal ek jul na die
Oosterse Plaza neem waar mens die speserye vars gemaal of heel kan koop.

Elsie Zinsser

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From: Mike Morgan <mwmosaka at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2008.09.18 (02) [E]

Okay, a topic *I* can relate to!

R/R wites:


> By the way, cardamom may very well be my favorite spice, which, together
with
> the abundant use of garlic, may very well be the reason why Middle Eastern

> cuisine belongs to my favorite cuisines alongside Japanese and Chinese
> cuisine, followed by South Asian cuisine.


Well, once again R/R and I will have to agree to disagree -- on minor points
anyway. Having lived in Japan, the Middle East (Eastern Turkey) and South
Asia, and like R/R traveled extensively everywhere else practically, I agree
that S Asian and Middle Eastern cuisines rate at the very top in my books
... though for me in the reverse order (with "Turkish" running a VERY close
second). Both are without a doubt among the most varied of cuisines and the
quality that you find (in loco anyway) is uniformly excellent ... and
without having to sell the firstborn to finance a meal.

As for Japanese, I am also quite fond of most of it -- meat dishes and inago
aside, and  natto I can take or leave. BUT, in my books anyway, it is
nowhere even NEAR the above two in terms of richness of variety, etc ... and
I will have to admit that quality is NOT uniformly high, not even if you
sell your first born. (And by the way, he still writes on occasion.)

I am much less fond of MOST Chinese food that one finds around the world --
including in China -- but must admit that SOMETIMES Chinese food can be
heaven (NY and SF China towns tend to be good, and in China IF you are lucky
or have inside info THEN it can be superb). BUT, mostly not as much to MY
taste (a personal matter) ... though the closer one gets to the Four Rivers
(Szechuan), the more I like it.

And as for cumin and caraway, I'll have to admit that there have been a time
or two in south east asian spice markets where I have bought carraway
THINKING I was getting cumin ... Of course IF i had been thinking I should
have known that cumin is LESS used there. ... Same problem never happens ,
here, so it must be a linguistic thing (i.e. the seeds look a lot alike both
places, but being able to understand what the sign or vendor says helps!)

And cardamom ... well, what can I say? In everything from carrot halva to
Syrian (Turkish) coffee to navratan korma ...

Mike || マイク || माईक || Мика || માઈક || მაიქ || ਮਾਈਕ || מייק || மாஇக்
|| ما یک || Mihangel ================ Dr Michael W Morgan Managing
Director Ishara Foundation Mumbai (Bombay), India ++++++++++++++++
माईकल मोर्गन (पी.एच.डी.) मेनेजिंग डॉयरेक्टर ईशारा फॉउंडेशन (मुंबई )
++++++++++++++++ 茂流岸マイク(言語学博士) イシャラ基金の専務理事・事務局
長 ムンバイ(ボンベイ)、インド

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From: heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk <heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: LL-L "Delectables" 2008.09.18 (02) [E]

from heatherrendall at tiscali.co.uk

Reinhard/Ron mentioned Caraway being called Kümmel and cumin Kreuzkümmel.

This has set me wondering. When looking at ancient deeds dating from c 1250
- 1400 we have come across quite a few where the rent per annum was 1lb of
cumin and have been surprised, as none of thought that cumin would ahve been
that available in the middle ages.

However caraway is a well known and well documented spice. Could the rents
have been paid in caraway rather than cumin?

from a blissfully dry and sunny Worcestshire where we have had at LONG LAST
the first week without rain for months and yesterday the sun dispersed the
low cloud as well, so smiles all round!

Heather

PS we also have rents of ' a single rose' and even the proverbial ' single
peppercorn'.

PPS perhaps cumon / caraway was very expensive making 1lb an extremely
expensive rent !?
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