LL-L "Etymology" 2009.04.07 (06) [A/E]

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From: Hellinckx Luc <luc.hellinckx at gmail.com>
Subject: LL-L "Etymology"

Beste Pat,



You wrote:



*And also 'chuffed' meaning pleased or delighted - he says is derived from
Welsh 'hoffi'= to delight in.*

*My mum would  not let me use 'chuffed' (she from Northants may have first
have heard it from my father, North Nottinghamshire), because it was "rude".
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* She wouldn't explain, but the OED does.*
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* Chuff is related to chafe (meaning to warm up by rubbing). Except it's not
hands that are getting warm. And pleased.*



Sounds reasonable. To chuff, chafe < chauffer (French) = to warm up. The
French word got stuck in Brabantish as well: "schaven" (B) ~
"schouden"/"schouwen" (D, wash something in boiling water) < Old French
"échauder", to heat up. Same root as "chauffeur", stoker of a steam engine.



Kind greetings,



Luc Hellinckx


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From: ppvaneeden at ziggo.nl
Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2009.04.04 (05) [A/D/E]

Beste Marcel,



Ik weet het ook niet beter met dit woord *roet.* Misschien dat de r (van
Surtr) is verschoven tot voor de u en de s- weg is gevallen??? Jij zal het
beter weten. Vertel me even de volgende over het woord *rood*. Is dit woord
verwant aan het Engels woord *read*? De oude runen was vaak in het rood
geschreven (bloed). Deze runen noemen we ook staven. Nu in het Engels kennen
we ook een *rod* (staaf). Ik wil nu vermoeden dat het Engels woord
*read *verband
houd met de kleur *rood* en dat dit woord komt uit het gebruik van de oude
runen.



Hartelijke groetjes,



Petrus *[van Eeden]*

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