LL-L "Grammar" 2010.10.17 (05) [EN]

Lowlands-L List lowlands.list at GMAIL.COM
Sun Oct 17 22:14:07 UTC 2010


=====================================================
L O W L A N D S - L - 17 October 2010 - Volume 05
lowlands.list at gmail.com - http://lowlands-l.net/
Posting: lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org
Archive: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/archives/lowlands-l.html
Encoding: Unicode (UTF-08)
Language Codes: lowlands-l.net/codes.php
=====================================================



From: Sandy Fleming <sandy at fleimin.demon.co.uk>

Subject: LL-L "Grammar" 2010.10.17 (04) [EN]



> From: jmtait <jmtait at wirhoose.co.uk>
> Subject: Language Simplification and Progression.
>
> I wondered what other Lowlanders would think of the view of language
> simplification and progression in this extract from 'Scotspeak - A
> Guide to the Pronunciation of Modern Urban Scots' by Christine
> Robinson and Carol Ann Crawford. (Published by the Scots Language
> Resource Centre.)
>
> Scotspeak, P. 29
>

> If we compare the Scots past tense and past participle of 'gi(v)e',
> which for many speakers are both gied, with the English gave and
> given, we can see that, in this instance, Scots is just a but further
> down the road of simplification.
>
> 'I gied him the ticket.' (Nan)
>
> What Nan is doing in
>
> 'A never telt big John'
>
> is making a weak verb out of tell. Occasionally Scots lags behind. For
> example, many Scots still use 'gotten' as the past participle of get.



Condescending?

Of course in Scots there's also the strong form "gae" (gave, without the
"v").

Why would a linguist say "Thank goodness English is getting simpler"? do
they just feel sorry for the lexicographers who have to explain these
things?

Sandy Fleming
http://scotstext.org/.



=========================================================
Send posting submissions to lowlands-l at listserv.linguistlist.org.
Please display only the relevant parts of quotes in your replies.
Send commands (including "signoff lowlands-l") to
listserv at listserv.linguistlist.org or lowlands.list at gmail.com
http://linguistlist.org/subscribing/sub-lowlands-l.html.
http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/group.php?gid=118916521473498<http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#%21/group.php?gid=118916521473498>
=========================================================
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/lowlands-l/attachments/20101017/6abb2db6/attachment.htm>


More information about the LOWLANDS-L mailing list