LL-L 'Traditions' 2010.12.26. (04) [EN]

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From: Douglas Hinton douglas.hinton at gmail.com
 Subject: LL-L 'Traditions' 2010.12.25. (02) [EN]

  I suggest that "spurcalia" still exists today as Easter. Easter was once
celebrated at the Spring vernal equinox, but was moved to a later date.
Maybe more accurately "spurcalia" was replaced by Mardi Gras or Fastnacht
as this takes place at about the vernal equinox and resembles a pagan fest.

Douglas
<http://scotstext.org/>

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From: Marcus Buck list at marcusbuck.org
 Subject: LL-L 'Traditions' 2010.12.25. (02) [EN]

From: George and Dawn Work and Work-MaKinne <workmakinne at msn.com>

   Subject: Sporkel

I'm new to the list (again) so pardon me if this has been discussed. A
Church Council document from the eighth century objects to pagan customs
celebrating the return of the sun, called the Spurcalia. Evidently this has
survived in North Germany as the name Sporkel for February. Does anyone
know if this is still a holiday in any way, or if there are still any
customs attached?


"Spurcalia" was not the native term of the festivities but a derogatory
term used by christianity. It's derived from the Latin word "spurcus"
meaning "dirty, filthy". They have indeed endured but in their
reinterpreted Christian form: Carnival. In German Karneval, Fastnacht,
Fasching, in Low Saxon "Fastelavend", "Faslom".

Marcus Buck

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From: Hellinckx Luc luc.hellinckx at gmail.com <neelen.keppenne at skynet.be>
Subject: LL-L 'Traditions'

Hello,

It's very simple:
A language has an army, a dialect has'nt.

Regards,

Jan Neelen

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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language varieties
Beste George,


You wrote:


I'm new to the list (again) so pardon me if this has been discussed. A
Church Council document from the eighth century objects to pagan customs
celebrating the return of the sun, called the Spurcalia. Evidently this has
survived in North Germany as the name Sporkel for February. Does anyone
know if this is still a holiday in any way, or if there are still any
customs attached?



The name "sprokkelmaand" (metathesis of sporkel ~ sporco, Italian for
dirty) is also older Dutch for February.
Apparently the Church witnessed some pre-Christian wild festivities at the
time, and termed them "dirty", because they couldn't immediately be
interpreted within a new context.

The closest you may get to this holiday is "Shrove Tuesday", Pancake Day,
Mardi Gras in French (Fat Tuesday).

Not only in New Orleans of course, but a little south of here, in the city
of Binche, it's the most important day of the year, the highlight of
carnival: Carnival of Binche - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival_of_Binche>

In Brabantish we call this "vastelavond" (~ vastenavond (D)), in German
catholic regions "Fassnacht, Fasching":

Karneval, Fastnacht und Fasching –
Wikipedia<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasnacht>

Swabian–Alemannic Fastnacht - Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swabian-Alemannic_carnival>

Btw, the day after is "aswoensdag", "assegoejnstag" in Brabantish.

Kind greetings,

Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium

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