LL-L "Phonology" 2011.01.21 (01) [DE-EN-NDS]

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From: burgdal32admin <burgdal32 at telenet.be>
Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2011.01.19 (01) [EN]

Dag Roger,



Here in West-Flanders we also say 'kart' for 'kwart' and 'kartier' for
'kwartier'.



Groetjes,



Luc Vanbrabant

Oekene



From: Roger Hondshoven <rhondshoven at yahoo.com>
Subject: kw (qu) or k ?

Some years ago, while listening to the BBC (radio and TV) I was struck by
words
lie quarter, quart, headquarters, being pronounced with initial k . At that
time
I didn't pay much attetntion. Lately I keep hearing it regularly. I thought
it
was rather bewildering. I checked in my dictionaries:Longman's, publ. 1987,
The
Concise Oxford Dictionary, 1991, a very old edition of An English
Pronouncing
Dictionary by Daniel Jones, 1952, Van Dale, Groot Woordenboek
Engels-Nederlands,
1989, Ten Bruggencate, Engels Woordenboek (Wolters),1983, Webster's Third
New
International Dictionary, 1966. They all concur that the correct
pronunciation
is with kw. I hear this pronunciation in both British and American speech. I
think this rather remarkable, as all other words with qu are realized with
kw.
I am under the impression that this is a rather recent development. What is
your
opinion?

Roger Hondshoven



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From: Hannelore Hinz  hannehinz at t-online.de
Subject: LL-L "Phonologie" 2011.01.19 (02) [EN-NDS]

Leiw' Lowlanners,

Piet Bult hett vermellt:


Beste Roger,
> Some years ago, while listening to the BBC (radio and TV) I was struck by
words like quarter, quart, headquarters, being pronounced with initial k.

Dat is hier ok so, ick gäw mal 'n Bispill an:

Q  Dieser Laut bietet in seiner Bildung (Kw) keine Schwierigkeit. Regel: Die
Lippen niemals runden, sonst entsteht aus dem W ein einfaches U. Übungen,
Qual, Quell, quillt, Quarz, quirlen. u.ä.

Beispiel: Der Qualm (the smoke) : Qualm [*kvalm];  *die Königin (the queen),
queen [*kwi:n*]
Literatur: DER KLEINE HEY , DIE KUNST DER SPRACHE  EDITION SCHOTT 614

Stimmhafte Affrikate (*kv*) *qu: kv
*Das Schriftzeichen qu ist als enge Verbindung von (*k*) und (*v*) zu
sprechen.
Literatur: K.-L. HARTH   DEUTSCHE SPRECHÜBUNGEN (Mit Aussprache Regeln)
*
*Dat gellt nah mien Dünken ok för Nedderdüütsch.

Mit 'n fründlich Gräuten.

Hanne



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