LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.19 (01) [EN]

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From: Mike Morgan mwmbombay at gmail.com
Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.18 (01) [EN-NL]

Roger (et alii)

According to my reading of Caesar and other ancient authors (as well as
Goscinny and Uderzo!), the Belgii (Belgian aboriginals?) were quite possibly
not Roman Catholic... and originally (whatever THAT means?) perhaps even not
German(ic). Presumably, at some time in history, migrants came in (including
both the Romans AND the Roman Catholics), and with these migrants came
different ways, different religions, and presumably "a lot of social
pressure ... to adjust to the new culture". The Spanish Inquisition was
somewhat more than just social pressure. Alas, no more boar on Fridays...
and head hunting was now done by the RC.

Christianos ad leones! (Tertullianus, Apologeticum) /  Ἅγνωστος Θεός (Paul,
> Acts)
>

Am not sure which I would prefer, being thrown to the lions, or being burned
at the stake ...

mwm || U C > || mike || мика  || माईक || マイク || மாய்க் (aka Dr Michael W
Morgan)

Senior Consultant
BA in Applied Sign Language Studies (BAASLS)
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University, New Delhi, India

"Too often we honor swagger and bluster and wielders of force; too often we
excuse those who are willing to build their own lives on the shattered
dreams of others. ... [T]here is another kind of violence, slower but just
as deadly destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the
violence of institutions; indifference and inaction and slow decay." (Bobby
Kennedy, 5 April 1968)

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk
Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.18 (01) [EN-NL]

Roger wrote:

Further even when seeing this all happening, we all are very reluctant to do
anything about it, since reactions are easily qualified as racistic.
There must be a way though to discuss openly patterns of cultural change.

This is a common problem when issues of culture and immigration are
debated.  A recent issue of New Statesman discusses the rise of "new right"
parties in Europe.  It repeatedly refers to them as "anti-immigrant"; but
many are actually anti-immigration.  There is a world of difference.  But
the front cover of the magazine has a picture of a suit and tie, the tie
bearing a Nazi swastika.

And this is what passes for "debate" in that quarter of politics: If you
suggest that crowded countries like England or Holland should not be
expected to take large numbers of people; if you suggest that Islamic or
other communities should not be exempt from national laws or be free to
impose their own, then obviously what you really want is to re-open Belsen
and fire up the ovens.

Paul


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