LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.21 (02) [EN]

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Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.20 (03) [EN]

From: Paul Finlow-Bates wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk

> Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.20 (02) [EN]
> In that case Finland and Sweden had better crank up their immigrant quota.
> And France for that matter - twice our area with the same population.
>
> Singapore may be stable; I have no desire for England to have Singapore's
> population density.  That argument is just another example of "you want to
> control immigration, you must be a fascist and obviously hate anyone with a
> dark skin". (I'm not. I don't).
>

I didn't make any judgement about you. I just made a judgement about the
argument of "crowdedness" which is a void argument.

 In that case Finland and Sweden had better crank up their immigrant quota.
>

I also didn't say that high population density is better. High or low, it
doesn't matter. Both is fine.

(Well, there are limits, of course. China's one child policy is based on
factual arguments. But immigration to Europe is so low, that any argument
about European countries becoming too crowded can just be a strawman
argument.)

Marcus Buck

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From: Paul Finlow-Bates wolf_thunder51 at yahoo.co.uk
Subject: LL-L "Culture" 2011.06.20 (05) [EN]

It's not just a matter of "privacy" that is at issue with population
density. There's more to fit into a country than just its people.  English
cities (and Scottish and Welsh ones for that matter) are pretty much as
densely inhabited as any others.  I've got no real problem with that.  I
don't believe that habitation should spread endlessly and inexorably so that
more and more people can be fitted in.

As for the "populate or perish" idea, I was born into a world of about 3
billion people and it wasn't that dreadful; I see little evidence most of
the additional 4 billion are particularly well off.

Paul

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