LL-L "Language use" 2011.11.17 (01) [EN]

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From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <roerd096 at PLANET.NL>
Subject: LL-L "Language use" 2011.11.16 (01) [EN]


Thanks Ron and the others who reacted or just read,

I hope so Ron. For the great part of members here who're not fluent in
Dutch, I'll translate Piet Bult's original message, to which I reacted so
uncalmly again:

"...Dear Lowlanders,
 Why since the "Sacrifice Feast" was brought up here, suddenly it's very
quiet at LL-L, I wondered ...

With reading of various Low Saxon dialects but also German, Dutch, Frisian,
Flemish, French, English, Afrikaans, etc. I have little trouble. And no,
believe me, I really have nothing against any religion and politics either.
I have something against people who either deliberately or otherwise and
whether or not using Google, like to bother me and others with their noise
about faith. If that is in an unreadable language (including Hebrew, Arab,
or the like) for me, in a discussion forum where I do not expect, yes, I
occasionally hook off. Because I would like to read and above all
understand what it says. If it is something about Low Saxon, or other
aforementioned languages I do even my stinking best to understand, but many
expressions about faith, religious wishes or even curses in short sentences
that are outside my western standard, I don't want to discuss about. Some
subjects - such as political and religious ones - can only provoke me to
utter a few screams.

 I would like to start a new thread, for example that "heave" over the very
interesting archaeological finds made recently in the prison 'Santa Fu'
from Hamburg (Ger) (see: Hamburger Abendblatt, 10/31/2011). That has to do
probably a lot with, or may be even essential for the emergence of our Low
Saxon. But no, I will not.
I'll listen here for a while and then I could hook off silently.
 With kind Stellingwerf greetings,
 Peter Bult

From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
 Subject: Language use

Thanks, Ingmar.

I personally did not think that Piet's posting came from a place of
intolerance. I rather believe that it was provoked by his eagerness to
understand everything that is posted here.

Posting in Lowlands languages is, of course, most appropriate and reaches
the largest number of readers. Among them, English is optimal in this
sense. But the use of other Lowlands language varieties is encouraged
because of their relevance and because of the fact that our subscribers
want to be exposed to them for learning purposes.

However, this does not mean that other languages are excluded, especially
in cases like welcoming messages and felicitations. A sizable percentage of
our members are from places other than Europe, North America, Australia and
New Zealand, and a lot of them are not Christian or even of Christian
background. I want all of them to feel as welcome and validated as everyone
else.

Global communication is advancing rapidly, and Lowlands-L is an
international community in which all sorts of voices can and should be
heard.

Regards,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA


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From: R. F. Hahn <sassisch at yahoo.com>
Subject: Language use

Thanks, Ingmar.

I suggest we allow this subject to rest now.

Regards and thanks,
Reinhard/Ron
Seattle, USA
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