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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 23 March 2007 - Volume 06</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_snepvangers@optushome.com.au" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Peter Snepvangers <<a href="mailto:snepvangers@optushome.com.au">
snepvangers@optushome.com.au</a>></span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Language maintenance"
2007.03.23 (04) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" id="mb_1">
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<div>From: Jonny Meibohm < <a href="mailto:altkehdinger@freenet.de" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">altkehdinger@freenet.de</a>><br>Subject:
LL-L "Language maintenance" 2007.03.23 (01) [E/S]<br></div>
</span><blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;"><span class="q">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span>Beste Peter Snepvanger and Ben
Blomgren,</span></div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span>did Peter (who signed the posting at the
end) or did Ben (who is named as author in the header of it)
write:</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span><font size="2">My father spoke at
least 8 languages fluently and many others to a lesser degree. He used to say
jokingly the difference between a language and a dialect is basically that the
dialect couldn't afford an army. </font></span></div>
<div><span></span> </div></span>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span>And I guess your father some
good years ago joked this way, but I don't joke when I several times
wrote here on our list that modern, big languages are able to defend
themselves but the old and 'minorital' ones, as e.g.
LS, can't.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span>There are only some handful of people being
capable enough in LS to control what's right and what's wrong. Things
even become worse by the fact that there is a great number of regional
dialects, in The Netherlands as well as in Germany.</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span></span> </div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span>And cheap but trendy dictionaries don't help
much to find the truth... </span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span></span> </div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span>Allerbest</span></div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span></span> </div>
<div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);">Jonny Meibohm</span> </span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span></span> </div></span>
<div><span>Hello Johnny and
Lowlanderen,</span></div>
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span>Yes it was me (Peter) who wrote about my father,
not our friend Ben. The sad thing is I never was close enough to my father in
my younger days. The last 20 years of his life allowed me to discover how to
read, write and speak "Queens Dutch", learn Latin which has helped me
immensely with understanding words (even to this day) and allowed me to
actually hear what Limburgs was. He always spoke to his brother and a group of
his homeland mates in Limburgs but not at home much as mum could not speak it.
These are my truths Johnny, just as cherished and good as your truths,
emotions and memories are. You have a beautiful passion for your Low Saxon. If
you love something let it be free and release some of that control over what
is right and what is wrong. You can be right and Reinhard can also be right.
</span></div><span class="q">
<div><span></span> </div>
<div><span>"Things even become worse by the fact that there
is a great number of regional dialects, in The Netherlands as well as in
Germany."</span></div></span>
<div><span>Well now Johnny, isn't this something positive,
having such a beautiful panorama of words in common use that you can pick from
to put in your "right" box. But was it right then, or is it right now, or will
it still be right in 40 years time. Who knows and who cares, as long as folks
are speaking it. In English I can say cup or even mug and you can say <font size="2">koppen, kopke or muk. All these can be right if we allow them to
be.</font></span></div><span class="q">
<div><span></span> </div>
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153);"><span><span>"And cheap but trendy
dictionaries don't help much to find the
truth..."</span></span></div>
<div><span><span></span></span> </div></span>
<div><span><span>I have many dictionaries, Japanese,
Chinese, Dutch, German, Aussie, English, American and more on the web I can
use. I absolutely love them. I am making my own wordlist dictionary on foodie
terms using English, Dutch, Fries, limburgs and German. HAH HAH. Me doing that
thousands of miles and minds away from you in Germany. Pointless you may say
but what the heck, it entertains me, helps me learn and just 2 weeks ago we
had a chef from Belgium employed by an American company work in our factory
here in Sydney setting up some new machinery. We made a few limburgse vlaa
during the day and enjoyed a few beers after work in the evenings. I enjoyed
dragging out and dusting off my minimal language
skills.</span></span></div>
<div><span><span></span></span> </div>
<div><span><span>I enjoy reading your postings Johnny, and
just even you doing that is helping to spread awareness and different
perspectives on Low Saxon, all good and valuable.</span></span></div>
<div><span><span>Cheers</span></span></div>
<div><span><span>Peter
Snepvangers</span></span></div>
<div><span><span><a href="mailto:snepvangers@optushome.com.au" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">snepvangers@optushome.com.au</a></span></span></div>
<div><span><span>Sydney</span></span></div></blockquote></div>
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