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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 12 April 2007 - Volume 03</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_edsells@cogeco.ca" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ed Alexander <<a href="mailto:edsells@cogeco.ca">edsells@cogeco.ca
</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Demographics" 2007.04.12 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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At 07:14 AM 04/12/07 -0700, Paul wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" type="cite">Australia's population is around 20
million, so British residents are currently 6.5% of the population.
But that figure won't include huge numbers of UK-born Australian
citizens. Thaey could easily double the figure. </blockquote><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Yes, it's all a bit tricky, as until the 1970's some time, every British
citizen who came to Canada was automatically a Canadian citizen, so I
suspect the number is also actually higher in Canada. Taking into
consideration everyone with British heritage, we probably still have a
smaller percentage, as I suspect that we have larger percentages of other
nationalities than you. </span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="sg"><br>
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<font color="#008000"><b>Ed Alexander</b></font></p></span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Demographics</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I thought that, unless they have been stripped of it or have gone out of their way to lose it (both of which happen very, very rarely),
</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">all</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> British citizens retain their British citizenship, no matter where and no matter if they acquired other citizenships. So the same applies to British people in Australia, whether they have Australian citizenship in addition or not. We don't really know if these people with dual citizenship are counted as British in those countries. I rather suspect they are not. So the actual numbers must be a lot greater than those reported.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Canada and Australia now have the same type of citizenship law as does Britain. (I don't know about New Zealand.) Its
</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">philosophical </span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">basis appears to be that citizenship is inalienable, whether acquired by birth or by choice. It affords citizens' foreign-born children the same citizenship and their grandchildren special rights regarding immigration and citizenship acquisition (in the case of Britain a type of remigration allowance for those with at least one grandparent having been a citizen).
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I have a feeling that this is the thing of the future. Why, even </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Germany</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> now allows emigrants to apply for retention of their German citizenship when they acquire another one, and those that lost their German citizenship earlier may now apply to have it restored (if they are wealthy enough ... and if they can prove connections, Germanness and German language proficiency ... and it helps if they declare that they are willing to drop other citizenships ...)! That
</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">really </span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">tells you that things are beginning to shift. However, it seems to me that in this case ethnicity (including culture and language) is a prerequisit (thus echoes of the old "country = ethnicity" model), while in the case of Australia, Britain and Canada it is not. (It would be interesting to see if a person would be acceptable in Germany if they didn't speak German or Low Saxon but only Danish, Frisian, Sorbian or Romany, which are official minority languages.)
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Mind you, other countries have had citizenship laws similar to that of Britiain for a long time. I remember that even in the 1960s and 1970s many young American, Canadian and Australian men traveling to Greece or Yugoslavia as their ancestral countries found themselves drafted as soldiers there. Australian friends of mine that were born and raised in Israel are unable to get rid of their Israeli citizenship no matter what they do, and their Australian-born daughter, whose birth was only registered in Australia, is likely to get drafted if she visits her grandparents in Israel. One of my current neighbors is in a similar situation; while she visits relatives in Israel, her American-born son stays home. (But let's not forget that many, probably more, Jewish people do
</span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">want </span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">to serve in Israel and acquire citizenship for that purpose. I personally know two persons that have done that.)
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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