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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 15 April 2007 - Volume 02</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_wes.parish@paradise.net.nz" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Wesley Parish <<a href="mailto:wes.parish@paradise.net.nz">
wes.parish@paradise.net.nz</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Demographics" 2007.04.14 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">On Sunday 15 April 2007 08:28, Lowlands-L List wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<snip></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q">> From: R. F. Hahn <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Subject: Demographics<br>><br></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> Wesley, you seem to be talking about the old Australian citizenship laws.<br>
> Since the changes of 2002, an Australian citizen acquiring another<br>> citizenship is no longer stripped of his or her Australian citizenship.<br><snip><br><br>Thanks, Ron.<br><br>I'm afraid I was. I had no idea it had changed - apart from a law making it
<br>necessary for New Zealanders to specifically apply for Australian citizenship<br>for any of their children born in Australia.<br></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q"><br>> From: Paul Finlow-Bates <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk">wolf_thunder51@yahoo.co.uk</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Demographics" 2007.04.13 (02) [E]<br>> From: Wesley Parish <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:wes.parish@paradise.net.nz">wes.parish@paradise.net.nz</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Demographics" 2007.04.12 (03) [E]<br>><br>> I'm a fourth and sixth generation Kiwi all around, but with an Australian
<br>> grandfather courtesy of my mother's side. But I was born overseas, in<br>> Papua New Guinea, no less ... citizenship law has some absurdities, no<br>> doubt about that. ----------<br>><br>> When I lived in Papua New Guinea about 25 years ago several friends had
<br>> babies born there. As children of expatriates they had no rights to PNG<br>> citizenship, and until they were registered with both the PNG authorities<br>> and the Consulate or Embassy of their parents' country, they were
<br>> stateless, illegal immigrants!<br>> Paul<br><br></span></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Yep, I found out that my parents had registered me with the New Zealand</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">authorities, but the registration office for New Zealanders' children born in</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
the Pacific was in Samoa. Colonial history! ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">And I was registered with the Australian authorities - since PNG was an
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Australian territory at the time - but not as an Australian citizen, though,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">in spite of having a grandfather who was born in Mount Morgan the year after</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Federation. I don't think my mother would've known. To the best of my
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">knowledge, I'm still an Australian Protected Person! ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I would be very interested to know just what the parameters of this "right" to</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
citizenship involve, since I apparently share a common first name with one of</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">the culture heroes of a people who live in the Torricellis, and who
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">consequently regard me as one of them - my parents lived there for a number</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
of years after my birth, and got on famously with the locals because of</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">me! ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">FWLIW ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Wesley Parish</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><snip></span>
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">--</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Clinersterton beademung, with all of love - RIP James Blish
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">-----</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Gaul is quartered into three halves. Things which are
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">impossible are equal to each other. Guerrilla</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
warfare means up to their monkey tricks.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Extracts from "Schoolboy Howlers" - the collective wisdom</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">of the foolish.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">-----</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Mau e ki, he aha te mea nui?</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">You ask, what is the most important thing?</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Maku e ki, he tangata, he tangata, he tangata.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I reply, it is people, it is people, it is people.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Demographics</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Hi, Wesley!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
You wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> I'm afraid I was. I had no idea it had changed - apart from a law making it
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> necessary for New Zealanders to specifically apply for Australian citizenship
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> for any of their children born in Australia.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I hope the mutual free migration deal is still in place between Australia and New Zealand, though. I really like that. I enjoyed knowing bunches of Kiwis in and around Perth and being invited to Maori parties there, and I always enjoyed entertaining the possibility of moving to New Zealand without any real paperwork -- despite the relatively cold weather and all those earthquakes there, something Aussies like to go on and on about, especially when Kiwis are present.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> To the best of my</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
> knowledge, I'm still an Australian Protected Person! ;)</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Oh, we do love protecting you, Wes!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> I apparently share a common first name with one of
</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">>
the culture heroes of a people who live in the Torricellis, and who</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">>
consequently regard me as one of them - my parents lived there for a number</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">>
of years after my birth, and got on famously with the locals because of</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 153); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">>
me! ;)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">You could be crowned king yet. Things like that have happened. But what if they only give credit to your parents for giving you that name and they couldn't care less about you? ;-)
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Cheerio!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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