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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 30 April 2007 - Volume 03</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_mrdreyer@lantic.net" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Mark Dreyer <<a href="mailto:mrdreyer@lantic.net">mrdreyer@lantic.net
</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Beliefs" 2007.04.28 (04) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" id="mb_1">
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<div><span>Dear Ron:</span></div>
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<div><span>Subject: L-Lowlands History</span></div>
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<div>> Mark, I guess you'd
agree that in various Jewish traditions there are what appear to be pre-Judaic
elements, usually shrugged off as superstition.</div>
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<div>Ja. But two points; these
guys are OLD hey! It's hard to find races older. Try the Sumerians, & who
else? If I can find it I'll send along the Sumerian scholar's perspective on
the Bible's second Creation tale - & the creation of Eve. It's easier to
find tags in Jewish culture to younger host-peoples: Like for example the the
present Jewish epithet for a free-thinker (now that's a prickly concept),
'epicat', only it comes from the Classical Greek 'epicurian', which is hardly
the same thing. Even in their prejudices, this is an ancient
race.</div>
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<div>Off the top of my head, I can
think of the "evil eye," a tradition that appears to cover most of Europe and
the Middle East, Central Asia, up to Southern Asia (and in later times
migrated to Jewish, Christian and Muslim enclaves elsewhere).</div>
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<div>Before I drop the matter
& dive in after the delightful string you stretched out in front of me, I
might add the wisdom in the Jewish psyche that perceived the objective
consequences of malign envy. This word & others are
often easier to define in psychological terms than as
superstition.</div>
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<div>Ah, modern Judaism uses this
concept in much the same spirit as another, translated in the King James Bible
as a 'froward tongue' - 'lishon hara' (Hebrew) & 'lawshen hawra'
(Yiddish).</div>
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<div>Enough of this.</div>
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<div>Yrs deliciously,</div>
<div>Mark <br></div></blockquote></div>
</div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: R. F. Hahn <
<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: Beliefs</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Haai, Mark!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Your wrote:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> Try the Sumerians, & who
else? If I can find it I'll send along the Sumerian scholar's perspective on
the Bible's second <br>> Creation tale - & the creation of Eve. It's easier to
find tags in Jewish culture to younger host-peoples<br><br>Oh, sure! But easier is not always more correct. I did include Sumerian in the list as a hint that this may be the source of the evil eye thing for all of them. It permeates Jewish cultures everywhere, as far as I can tell, so its origin must be pretty darn early. Besides, Greek culture was also imbued with Sumerian and Persian cultural influences.
<br><br>I suppose that this far back in history it's anyone's guess.<br><br>Groete,<br>Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_t.mcrae@uq.net.au" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Tom Mc Rae</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:t.mcrae@uq.net.au">t.mcrae@uq.net.au</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Beliefs" 2007.04.28 (04) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Here in Queensland a common garden weed exudes a milky sap which does kill off warts.
</span><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Wish I'd known about that before I visited Edinburgh Royal Infirmary to have my wart covered hands cured.</div><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">They burned them out using liquid nitrogen and it hurt like hell. Two days later I auditioned for admission to the
</div><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Edinburgh Magic Circle and passed first class with handaged hands.</div><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">An English friend visited a Derby fairground where a wise man was selling sealed envelopes in which was enclosed a foolproof
</div><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">wart cure. The paper just stated "TAKE CALCIUM TABLETS" he did, they went.</div><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I also refer you to Huckleberry Finn's cure in "Tom Sawyer", read it for yourself it's still a great book.
</div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div>On 29/04/2007, at 11:12 AM, R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
<font color="#0022e2">sassisch@yahoo.com </font></a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><font size="2"><span style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px;">
Heather,
we were taught to wait until full moon, cut a small piece off a wart,
bury it in a flower pot and then leave the pot on a window sill in view
of the moon. Apparently, this was an adaptation from burying the
tissue in the ground. <br></span></font></blockquote></div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Regards</font></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Tom Mc Rae</font></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Brisbane Australia</font></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Oh Wad Some Power the Giftie Gie Us</font></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Tae See Oorsel's as Ithers See Us</font></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;" size="3">
Robert Burns</font></div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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