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<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 1 May 2007 - Volume 07</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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From: </span><span id="_user_didimasure@hotmail.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Diederik Masure <<a href="mailto:didimasure@hotmail.com">didimasure@hotmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Language maintenances" 2007.05.02 (06) [D/E]</span><br><div style=""><div><span class="q">
<p><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font size="2">Assuming
this is true, I see little reason to believe that any minority language
has much of a chance of surviving the assult of the inter-net. On the
other hand.... :-)), the internet may be the ONLY chance of any
minority language to survive simply by the effect of operations such as
this discussion group started to preserve a language. <br><<<<br></font></font></p></span>
<p><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;"><font size="2">And the power of MSN must not be underestimated:):) <br><br>I
am not sure how many of the younger people still know some and use
dialect in the other parts (Low Saxon f.ex.), but the informal context
of chatting, and more recently also blogging, is surely a boost for
dialects, if not in spoken form then at least written. Nearly all
(Flemish) people I know write a kind of hybrid dutch/dialect; since the
norm on msn seems to be 'write like you speak'. The spelling system
(and phonology to a lesser extent) is mainly based on the standard
language conventions, but in word use, morphology etc it conserves a
lot of the older dialect. <br>I even see this "msn-flemish" appear in
informal letters from and to my youngest sister. I only learnt to write
like this when I signed up for MSN when I was 12-13 years old. In the
beignning you write like you're used to (i.e. standard dutch) but the
"group effect" makes you abandon this quickly:) <br>Even
my father, when chatting with him, begins using dialect quite often, he
even writes "platter" (i.e. more towards dialect) than he usually
speaks in the daily life. Among older people (like him, and my mother)
the habit of writing standard language is still a lot stronger though,
among youngsters in my neighbourhood it's almost nihil outside formal
contexts. <br><br>The same can be said about Norway, not being a Low
Land but being a land with a strong dialectal tradition. Especially in
the Westland (where nynorsk stands strongest) most people I chat with
write some kind of (modern) dialect, like most blogs I find (norwegians
seem to be diehard bloggers). <br><br><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: </span></font></font><span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="padding: 0pt 1px 1px 0pt;"></span>Elsie Zinsser <<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">
ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="2"><br>Subject: </font></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">LL-L "Language maintenance"
2007.05.02 (02) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></p><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">Hi Ron, </span></font></span>
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<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="DE">I posted the Spiegel
article '</span></font></span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="DE">Sprechen Sie Saterfriesisch?' </span></font><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;">
It came to me
via Stan Levinson. </span></font></span></p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="FR">Regards,</span></font></span></p>
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: black;" lang="FR">Elsie Zinsser</span></font></span><p><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: tahoma,sans-serif;">
<font size="2"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------<br><br></span></font></font><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="2">From: </font></font><span id="_user_theohoman@yahoo.com" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Theo Homan <<a href="mailto:theohoman@yahoo.com">theohoman@yahoo.com</a>></span><span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </font></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">LL-L "Language maintenance" 2007.05.02 (04) [E/LS]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> From: R. F. Hahn <</span><a style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com
</a><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> Subject: Language maintenance</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">>> Thanks for the update about "Talk op Platt," Heiko.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
> De NDR hett jo de Senn' "Talk io Platt" lang</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> instellt, wiel se to wenig</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> Tokieker harrn.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Moin,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Hadden ze de kijkers in Groningen erbij geteld, dan</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
hadden ze een iets gunstiger cijfer gehad.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Maar de Groningers mogen natuurlijk weer niet mee
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">doen? :)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><a style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://vr.gr/" target="_blank">
vr.gr</a><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></p><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="sg">Theo Homan<br></span></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="ad">
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<font size="2">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></font></font><span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></span><font style="font-size: 11px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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Subject: </font></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Language maintenance</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Ah, yes, Elsie! Sorry.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">And in what </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-style: italic;">u</span>lenflucht </span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">has that Stan of ours been hiding anyway?</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Cheerio (and Fruitloop)!</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span></p><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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