<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L  -  22 May 2007 - Volume 03</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">=========================================================================</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Elsie Zinsser <<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za
</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Travels" 2007.05.22 (04) [E]</span><br><p><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">
Hi all,</span></font></span></p>



<p><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;" lang="FR">Ja, Ron, sapienti sat! <span> </span></span></font></span></p>



<p><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Groetnis,</span></font></span></p>

<p><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Elsie Zinsser</span></font></span></p>

<p style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
<font color="black"><span style="color: black;">sassisch@yahoo.com</span></font></a>><br>
Subject: Travels<br>
<br>
[....snip] <span> </span></span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 36pt;"><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Elsie's word to the wise ought to be heeded: </span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><font color="black" face="Symbol" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black;">·<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span>        
</span></font></span></font><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Name it descriptively and accurately (i.e. not suggestive of what
it doesn't do).</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><font color="black" face="Symbol" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol; color: black;">·<font face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span>        
</span></font></span></font><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Make sure you don't infringe on anyone's copyright.</span></font></p>

<font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">At least that's what I
understood her as saying. </span></font><br><br><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: </span><span id="_user_bryans@lodging1.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"Bryan E. Schulz" <<a href="mailto:bryans@lodging1.com">bryans@lodging1.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Travel" 2007.05.23 (01) [E]</span><br><br><div><font face="Georgia" size="2">How about:  <strong>The Lowland Rovers 
?</strong>  It has a bit of musical lilt to it.  Kind of rolls off the 
tounge/tong/tung..oh well...</font></div>
<div><strong></strong> </div>
<div><font face="Georgia" size="2">Bryan E. Schulz<br><br><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></font><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
From: </span><span id="_user_globalmoose@t-online.de" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Global Moose Translations <<a href="mailto:globalmoose@t-online.de">globalmoose@t-online.de</a>></span>
<span id="_user_bryans@lodging1.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Travel" 2007.05.23 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q">
Ron wrote:<br>>I still like Lowlands Soujourner or Lowlands Soujourns, because it suggests<br>>places to stop and see, but Sandy thinks it's too much of a mouthful...<br><br></span></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Not
only that, but many, if not most non-native English speakers probably
don't know the word, and even you have trouble spelling it (it's
"Sojourner", actually). :-)</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I like the Lowlands Travel Bug...</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">...or Lowlands Travel Companion...</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
...or The Flying Lowlander...</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">...or what about "Lowlands Highlights", "Lowlands High Roads", something along those lines?
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">The bad thing about "Travel Tips" is that it sounds so much like "cosmetic tips" or "household tips"...
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">>We should keep brainstorming.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Maybe not, you know what happens when my brain gets all stormy... :-P</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Gabriele Kahn</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net" style="color: rgb(200, 137, 0); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Kevin Caldwell <<a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">
kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a>></span><span id="_user_bryans@lodging1.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;"></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">


Subject: LL-L "Travel" 2007.05.23 (01) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">

<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q">> From: Global Moose Translations <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:globalmoose@t-online.de">
globalmoose@t-online.de</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Travels" 2007.05.22 (04) [E]<br>> >Lowlands-L<br>> >TRAVEL TIPS<br>> >Lowlands Places to Experience and Remember<br>><br>> Hmm, I don't know, don't like those "Travel Tips" at all. Maybe if we turned it around?
<br>> Something like "Getting Around in the Lowlands", "Sights to See in the Lowlands", "Visiting<br>> the Lowlands", something along those lines?<br>><br>> Gabriele Kahn<br><br></span>
<div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">But
is it only about visiting the Lowlands? I thought we were talking about
travel tips for sites related to Lowlands languages and culture,
wherever they may be in the world (New York, South Africa, Indonesia,
Suriname, the West Indies, etc.)<br></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q"><br>> From: R. F. Hahn < <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">
sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>> Subject: Travels<br>><br></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q">> I still like Lowlands Soujourner or Lowlands Soujourns , because it suggests places to stop
<br>> and see, but Sandy thinks it's too much of a mouthful ... :-( (I could hold him and let you<br>> pummel him until he agrees it's a wonderful idea.)<br><br></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
A
sojourner (note the spelling) is someone who lives in a foreign land
for an extended period (but not permanently), not just a visitor.<br></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q"><br>> Lowlands Wayfarer after all, maybe?<br><br></span></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
You know that's my vote!<br></div><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="sg"><br>Kevin Caldwell<br><br>----------<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span>
<span id="_user_ezinsser@icon.co.za" style="color: rgb(204, 0, 96);">Elsie Zinsser <<a href="mailto:ezinsser@icon.co.za">ezinsser@icon.co.za</a>></span><span id="_user_bryans@lodging1.com" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">

Subject: LL-L "Travel" 2007.05.23 (01) [E]<br></span><p><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Hi all,</span></font></span></p>



<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Why add 'Lowlands' to the travel section? Is that not limiting it
to a geographical area?</span></font></span></p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">I might want to add info about the SA Highveld or the Great Karoo...
</span></font></span></p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><b><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black; font-weight: bold;">Travel Bug</span></font></b></span><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;"> sounds good! I often have an itch that needs
scratching before I travel somewhere :-) <span> </span></span></font></span></p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Regards,</span></font></span></p><span class="sg">

<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">Elsie Zinsser</span></font></span></p>

<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span><font color="black" face="Batang" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Batang; color: black;">===========================</span></font></span></p></span><span class="q">


<p style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><font color="black" face="Arial" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; color: black; font-weight: bold;">The Lowlands Travel Bug<br>
</span></font></b><font color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-family: Arial; color: black;"><br>
:-)<b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;"><br>
</span></i><br>
The Overlowlander</b><br>
<br>
:-P <br>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands Spots</span></b><br>
(another disease?)<br>
<br>
I still like <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands Soujourner </span></b>or
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands Soujourns </span></b>, because it
suggests places to stop and see, but Sandy thinks it's too much of a mouthful
... :-( (I could hold him and let you pummel him until he agrees it's a
wonderful idea.) <br>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands Sightseer</span></b> ?<br>
<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands Wayfarer</span></b> after all,
maybe?  Better than <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands Waylayer</span></b>or
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Lowlands</span></b> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Bushwhacker</span></b>, of <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Wayward Lowlander</span></b>, I suppose<b><i><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">
.<br>
<br>
</span></i></b>Keep thinking!  Think "places to see" and
"good advice" rather than "travel itineraries."<br>
<br>
Reinhard/Ron</span></font><br></p></span></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="q">
From: R. F. Hahn < <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: Travels<br><br>Thanks, everyone.<br><br>OK, no So(u)journer then ... Be like that!
<br><br>Plural "Lowlands Rovers" sounds odd to me, like the name of a football club or men's choir.  "Lowlands Rover" sounds better, but that's already been taken by some online fantasy game.  Besides, it sounds like the name of a British pub.
<br><br></span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"Flying Lowlander" is great, but it's been taken, unfortunately.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Gabriele:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> "Lowlands High Roads", something along those lines?
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Hmmm ... "Lowlands Highways"?  It doesn't seem to be taken.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I'm more and more warming up to Kevin's "Wayfarer," and "Lowlands Wayfarer" is taken yet.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">So, you executive and legal types out there, how can we make it our own without going to enormous trouble and expense?<br><br></span>
But then again, Elsie came up with a valid point.  So I suggest we use "Lowlands-L ..." instead.  The beauty of that is that it is less place-specific and that it solves the problem of trademark etc.<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">This is what I have right now as a working draft:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div style="text-align: center; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><font size="4"><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Lowlands-L</span><br style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">TRAVEL BUG</span></font>
<br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Places to Experience and Remember</span><br><div style="text-align: left;"><br></div></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">As working draft category I have the following:</span>
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><ul style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><li>Places to See</li><li>Places to Be</li><li>Places to Meet<br></li><li>Places to Stay</li><li>Places to Eat</li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Maybe later:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><ul style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><li>Places to Hear</li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">if we get soundlandscapes together.  Oh, and under the same category could be places in which you get to hear the old languages.
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Of course, there could also be</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><ul style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<li>Places to Avoid</li></ul><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">but we'd better not get into that, not into certain other possibility my mind is trying to suggest.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">The possibilities are numerous, if not endless.  Any suggestions?<br></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Gabriele:</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">> Maybe not, you know what happens when my brain gets all stormy... :-P
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I know! It ain't a pretty picture. Even the </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Ulen</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
 take to </span><span style="font-style: italic; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Flucht</span><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> then.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Kumpelmenten,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Reinhard/Ron</span><br><br>