<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 31 May 2007 - Volume 04</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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Subject: LL-L "Songs" 2007.05.31 (03) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span class="q">From: Karl-Heinz Lorenz <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:Karl-Heinz.Lorenz@gmx.net">Karl-Heinz.Lorenz@gmx.net</a>><br>> Subject: LL-L "Songs" 2007.05.29 (02) [E]<br>><br>> Ron, you wrote
<br>>> (If I remember correctly, it's were the Star<br>>> Club was in which the Beetles started their career.)<br>><br>> The Beatles' first studio recording where done in Hamburg featering Tony<br>
> Sheridan and Bert Kaempfert as a producer (btw another ae, but this is<br>> definitely alternatively for a Umlaut รค, not a Dehnungs e, as it's a<br>> [high-]german name and was changed by Kaempfert himself, see:
<br>> <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Kaempfert" target="_blank">http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bert_Kaempfert</a>).<br>><br>> The Beatles had to change their name into Beat-Brothers according to English
<br>> wikipedia: <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Sheridan" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Sheridan</a> :<br>><br>> " ... The word "Beatles" was judged to sound too similar to the German
<br>> "Pidels" (pronounce peedles), the plural of a slang term for penis, hence<br>> the album was credited to "Tony Sheridan and The Beat Brothers"..."<br>><br>> Is this translation/interpretation of "Pidel/Pidel" correct, because the
<br>> German wiki doesn't mention this.<br>><br>> Greetings,<br>> Karl-Heinz<br><br></span></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">It's more commonly written "Piedel", but yes, it's a German slang term
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">for penis (northern German and Low Saxon too). But I can't imagine</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
they really thought "Beatles" sounded like "Piedels"... They sound</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">close, but cause of the difference between b and p and d and t not
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">close enough to be associated. Unless the Beatles performed in (the</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Bundesland of) Saxony, where b/p and t/d are articulated the same (but</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I guess they don't know the word "Piedel" there).
</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Marcus Buck</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">