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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 06 June 2007 - Volume 01</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"<a href="mailto:heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk">heatherrendall@tiscali.co.uk
</a>"</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Traditions"
2007.06.05 (04) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br>Marcel wrote " A
family that owns a lot of cattle is rich (hence the twofold meaning of
Latin 'pecunia' and Old English 'feoh' = cattle, money).</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">The
word 'Cattle' itself has an interesting history: it comes from
'capitalis' a kind of poll tax , then became the money/price that an
individual was asked for and then the chattels or cattle he owned in
order to pay.</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">re slang use of 'cattle' rather than an original
meaning: it was /is /can be used to describe horses - usually
derogatorily "What kind of cattle are you keeping nowadays" " I don't
like those cattle you're driving"</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">best wishes</p>
<p style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Heather</p>
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_roepstem@hotmail.com" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Marcel Bas</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:roepstem@hotmail.com">roepstem@hotmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
Subject: LL-L "Traditions" 2007.06.05 (06) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Hello, John. Thanks for your reply.
</div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </div>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I wrote:</div>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div>
<div>"..but "wildebees" is named
for its wild jumps, and since it is a buck (a bovine) the link with an
ox (bees) is easily made. I don't think that the Boer culture was still
in touch with common Indic ..""</div>
</div></blockquote>
<div dir="ltr" style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">And then you replied:</div>
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div>"Cows and oxen are not buck /boch, and do not jump."</div>
</blockquote>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Did
I say that? I merely said that buck are bovines, not that cows and oxen
are buck. The Bovidae family comprises buck, oxen, sheep and goats. And
I didn't say that cows and oxen jump. I said that the wildebees was
called 'wilde bees' for its jumping. And a wildebees is neither a cow
nor an ox. It is a large buck (of the Connochaetes genus). The largest
buck is the eland (Taurotragus), by the way.</div>
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div>Cape Buffalo are "wilde bees", but antelope are not bovine / bees. </div></blockquote>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">The
Cape buffalo is not the wildebees; it is... well, a buffalo. "Buffel"
in Afrikaans (Syncerus). The wildebees is a large antelope, also known
as the gnu. But both antelopes and buffalos are bovine (Bovidae). As
are sheep and goats. The larger an antelope species seems, the more
these animals will have reminded early colonists of cows and oxen.
Hence the name 'wildebees', eg. 'wild cow/wild oxen', but it is not a
cow. It is a common thing among colonial ethnic groups: the Boers saw
the largest buck and they named it after the elk (eland) and when they
saw a Clerodendron tree, they named it after the chestnut from Europe
(kastaiing). The same happened to the wild ox -- wildebees -- which was
not an ox but an antelope.</div>
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div>The inherent connotation of deer /mountain goats / antelope is of attractive animals of the wild, the normal hunted animal. </div>
</blockquote>
<div style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">And
that is why I don't it is likely that the Boers even thought of the
Brahman ox, since that ox is a domesticated animal and the wildebees is
game. </div>
<blockquote style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<div>So Bavarian "trachtenhuten"
meaning a hunting costume (I think - the word is too old for Germans to
understand), has the chamois gamsbart on the hat as a symbol of good
hunting, today. </div>
<div>There are numerous modern
religious rituals from ancient civilisations. We are so used to them
that these are invisible to us. When we speak, we are "replying" to our
IE ancestors with their words and semantics.</div>
chimera<br></blockquote>
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">I
fully agree with that. That is so interesting. The thing with rituals
is that they often lose their spiritual or religious identity. Pagan
Easter fires in Friesland, growing houseleek on your roof and -- in
many circles -- even Christmas have turned into traditions devoid of
the religious component. But it's still nice to see these customs and
words being used for hundreds of generations.</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> Best regards,</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Marcel.<br><br></span>
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