<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 16 June 2007 - Volume 07</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">jonny</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2007.06.16 (03) [E]
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<div><font size="2"><span><font face="Angelus™">Beste
Diederik,</font></span></font></div>
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<div><font size="2"><span><font face="Angelus™">kannst dat
noch commod lees'n<font face="AdLib Th">?</font>? Wenn nich- denn
bruukst Du en nieuve Brill, miin Jongje! Haar 'ck in Diin Öller jüst sou maakt-
hebb 'ck ouk vandage noch plezeer an.</font></span></font></div><div><font size="2"> </font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Angelus™" size="2">Allerbest!</font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Angelus™" size="2">Jonny
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From: </span><span id="_user_luc.hellinckx@gmail.com" style="color: rgb(0, 104, 28); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Luc Hellinckx</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg"> <<a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">
luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2007.06.16 (03) [E]</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><div style="direction: ltr; font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Beste Diederik,<br><br>You wrote:<br>><br>> In certain cases however, palatalized final t/d ("mouillering") does
<br>> occur along the western fringes of Brabantish (towards river Dender),<br>> where you could hear:<br>><br>> "a bajtsj" for "hij bijt"<br>> "vajtsj" for "vet"<br>
> "wintsj" for "wind"...<br>> >>><br>><br>> western? strange, since i thought this was typically for Limburg...<br><br>Sometimes happens that certain phenomena were once active on a much
<br>bigger scale. Let me give you three examples:<br><br> 1. Unrounding of vowels is still prevalent in places located<br> approximately 25 km from Brussels ("muur" > "mier", "deur" >
<br> "dee(r)...). Inside that circle however, excessive rounding can be<br> observed, even hypercorrection. This ring-shaped outer area (so<br> called "relictgebied") suggests that change was once triggered by
<br> one city, Brussels in this case. If this is true, it would also<br> mean that unrouding was much more widespread in a distant past<br> (before Brussels started gaining influence).<br> 2. Elision of "e" in final "en": "zetten" > "zetn", "fouten" >
<br> "foutn" can within Belgium both be heard in Flanders ànd Northern<br> Limburg (somewhere around Peer if I remember well)...and further<br> down the road in Germany of course. Complementary is the dropping
<br> of the final "n": "zetten" > "zette", "fouten" > "foute", which<br> assumedly spread from Leuven northward and as such split a region<br> that used to be much bigger before.
<br> 3. Diphthongization must once have been an innovation as well, since<br> both in the west and the east of Belgium, people still say<br> "bit(e)n" (> "bijten") and "huus", "hoes" (> "huis").
<br><br>One could say that the center of both northern Belgium and the<br>Netherlands has regularly sort of driven a (linguistic) wedge between<br>the South-West and the North-East of the Bene(lux).<br><br>Kind greetings,
<br></div><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="sg"><br>Luc Hellinckx</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br>