<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"> </span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">L O W L A N D S - L - 22 July 2007 - Volume 01</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
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<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_marless@gmx.de" style="color: rgb(121, 6, 25); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">"M.-L. Lessing" <<a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de">marless@gmx.de
</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.07.21 (01) [E/V]</span><br><div style="direction: ltr;">
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<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3">The "byword"-thing: Kevin wrote:</font></span></p>
<p><font color="black" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black;">I believe that a person (or nation) can be
referred to as a byword. The places where "byword" is used in the King James
Version (KJV) of the Bible
are:...</span></font></p></div></div></div></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">Here are many examples for a person's name or
a nation being a byword for negative things. <em>Is </em>"byword" negative?
"Proverb", "astonishment", "song" and the other words that go along with it
are originally non-valuing words. And so is "Beispiel", "Bispill" in German
and Nedderdüütsch. Can anybody be a byword for something good?</font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman">Marlou</font></div><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">----------</span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">
<span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">From: </span><span id="_user_jonny.meibohm@arcor.de" style="color: rgb(91, 16, 148); font-family: arial,sans-serif;">jonny</span><span style="font-weight: normal; font-family: arial,sans-serif;" class="lg">
<<a href="mailto:jonny.meibohm@arcor.de">jonny.meibohm@arcor.de</a>></span><br style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;"><span style="font-family: arial,sans-serif;">Subject: LL-L "Etymology" 2007.07.21 (01) [E/V]
</span><br><br><div><span><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Beste
Ron,</font></span></div><span class="q">
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<div><span><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">you
wrote:</font></span></div>
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Jonny, whatever the reason may be (which could be confusion in ancient times),
<span style="font-style: italic;">Spill</span> [spI.l] and <span style="font-style: italic;">Spęęl</span> (<span style="font-style: italic;">Spääl</span>) [spe:l] in the sense of 'play' > are
dialectically distributed in Low Saxon; i.e., some dialects use one and other
dialects use the other. So it isn't a matter of right or wrong > unless
you focus on one dialect only.</font> </span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Yes, and I
fully agree with you.</font></span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">But, as I
didn't write clear enough, in our dialect we normally pronounce
it <em>'Speel',</em> and so we do in <em>''_Speel_warks',
'Kinner_speel_', 'Bii_speel_</em>', but as an exception from the
rule older natives tend to say <em>'Kar_spill_'</em> or even
<em>'Kar_spell_</em>' with that <u>short</u> vowel. That's the
matter pricking up my ears- possibly here we have a hint for the
different roots of <em>'spilon'</em> - 'to play' vs
<em>'spellon'</em> - to tell which completely(?) got lost in Standard
German. </font></span></div>
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<div><span><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Perhaps it
is sheer coincidence, but a remarkable one.</font></span></div>
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<div align="left"><span><font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Have a nice sunday!</font></span></div>
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<font face="Lucida Sans Unicode">Jonny
Meibohm</font><br>